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  • #46
    Originally posted by West Acton View Post
    Where I would agree with you is he needs to get this view out his head that he’s a ball playing CB as for me that’s where most of his incidents with him occur when he gets caught with it, but as a simple defender tackling, heading and clearing lines he’s pretty good.

    Ned if your reading stop playing out and 99% of your problems will vanish
    Good shout to be fair mate.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by West Acton View Post
      Where I would agree with you is he needs to get this view out his head that he’s a ball playing CB as for me that’s where most of his incidents with him occur when he gets caught with it, but as a simple defender tackling, heading and clearing lines he’s pretty good.

      Ned if your reading stop playing out and 99% of your problems will vanish
      Problems for him occur in possession when nobody shows for the ball, that's when he delays sometimes and loses it.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Olly View Post
        Problems for him occur in possession when nobody shows for the ball, that's when he delays sometimes and loses it.
        I know then panics and tries carrying through opposition. Should just go back to keeper and start again as tho I majority would prefer that then getting caught and put on back foot

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        • #49
          Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
          Canít even believe thereís people that wouldnít have him in our starting 11 tbh.
          Why canít you believe it?

          Iím not saying heís our worst defender or our best but heís been at fault for quite a few goals in the past and that surely makes you vulnerable to be dropped.

          Holloway clearly likes him so it seems when heís fit heíll play and yes our results have been decent lately with him in the side but you canít keep making mistakes and getting away with it. Surely

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Bigdave View Post
            Why can’t you believe it?

            I’m not saying he’s our worst defender or our best but he’s been at fault for quite a few goals in the past and that surely makes you vulnerable to be dropped.

            Holloway clearly likes him so it seems when he’s fit he’ll play and yes our results have been decent lately with him in the side but you can’t keep making mistakes and getting away with it. Surely
            If you look at the points we've picked up with Ned in the side against points picked up without him, it's a pretty compelling argument for him to start when fit. I'm not saying on individual merit he's the best centre half that we have, he isn't, I'm not even sure he's the 2nd best. But his overall influence on the team is clearly a positive one and we pick up far more points when he plays.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by West Acton View Post
              Where I would agree with you is he needs to get this view out his head that he’s a ball playing CB as for me that’s where most of his incidents with him occur when he gets caught with it, but as a simple defender tackling, heading and clearing lines he’s pretty good.

              Ned if your reading stop playing out and 99% of your problems will vanish
              Thing is though Wests, sometimes he does go on runs from the oppo's half which have been really good and have resulted in good chances.

              Originally posted by West Acton View Post
              Should just go back to keeper and start again
              But he already does that a helluva a lot. I think his weaknesses are more to do with concentration lapses and errors of judgement. I agree with you on what his strengths are though.
              IMO
              YMMV
              LOL

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              • #52
                Old bob hazel used to manage it well, his steaming runs he used to go on, but i even wince when ned plays a straight pass, like yesterday, how many times did he play a straight forward pass & he pretty much over hit most of them, resulting in our player miscontrolling it, and it coming straight back, agree with westy he needs to just concentrate on defending.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bigdave View Post
                  Why canít you believe it?

                  Iím not saying heís our worst defender or our best but heís been at fault for quite a few goals in the past and that surely makes you vulnerable to be dropped.

                  Holloway clearly likes him so it seems when heís fit heíll play and yes our results have been decent lately with him in the side but you canít keep making mistakes and getting away with it. Surely
                  You can't ignore that since he came back from injury our results have improved.
                  Top Scorers 2018/2019

                  Ebere Eze - 3
                  Tomer Hemed - 3
                  Luke Freeman - 3
                  Pawel Wszolek - 3
                  Joel Lynch - 2
                  Massimo Luongo- 2
                  Nakhi Wells- 2
                  Bright Osayi-Samuel - 1
                  Matt Smith - 1
                  Toni Leistner - 1
                  Geoff Cameron - 1

                  Summer Transfers 2018

                  IN
                  Toni Leistner, Angel Rangel, Tomer Hemed (loan), Nakhi Wells (loan), Geoff Cameron (loan).

                  OUT
                  Jamie Mackie, James Perch, Nedum Onuoha, Jay Emmanuel-Thomas, Jack Robinson, Alex Smithies, David Wheeler (loan), Ryan Manning (loan), Conor Washington.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                    You can't ignore that since he came back from injury our results have improved.
                    I said in my post that results have improved since he’s returned and I honestly don’t think he’s that bad I just don’t think he’s that good either

                    But it’s all about opinions

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Bigdave View Post
                      I said in my post that results have improved since he’s returned and I honestly don’t think he’s that bad I just don’t think he’s that good either

                      But it’s all about opinions
                      He's not the best defender in the world, I'll give you that.
                      Top Scorers 2018/2019

                      Ebere Eze - 3
                      Tomer Hemed - 3
                      Luke Freeman - 3
                      Pawel Wszolek - 3
                      Joel Lynch - 2
                      Massimo Luongo- 2
                      Nakhi Wells- 2
                      Bright Osayi-Samuel - 1
                      Matt Smith - 1
                      Toni Leistner - 1
                      Geoff Cameron - 1

                      Summer Transfers 2018

                      IN
                      Toni Leistner, Angel Rangel, Tomer Hemed (loan), Nakhi Wells (loan), Geoff Cameron (loan).

                      OUT
                      Jamie Mackie, James Perch, Nedum Onuoha, Jay Emmanuel-Thomas, Jack Robinson, Alex Smithies, David Wheeler (loan), Ryan Manning (loan), Conor Washington.

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                      • #56
                        For me, Ned just doesn't look comfortable with the ball. Not saying he's a bad player but I just get really nervous when he has possession. Can't see him ever being more than a Championship player.
                        "Paul Furlong is my vintage Rolls Royce and he cost me nothing. We polish him, look after him, and I have him fine tuned by my mechanics. We take good care of him because we have to drive him every day, not just save him for weddings." - Ian Holloway.

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                        • #57
                          Don't think anybody is saying he is a world beater, but we are a lower Championship side and he is more than adequate for where we are. Given our other CB options, he is a guaranteed started IMO (which is what I meant in my above comment about I can't believe people wouldn't start him - who would you start instead?).
                          You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
                            Don't think anybody is saying he is a world beater, but we are a lower Championship side and he is more than adequate for where we are. Given our other CB options, he is a guaranteed started IMO (which is what I meant in my above comment about I can't believe people wouldn't start him - who would you start instead?).

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Olly View Post
                              Problems for him occur in possession when nobody shows for the ball, that's when he delays sometimes and loses it.
                              This. Onuha's biggest weakness (IMO) is the panic he has when he gets closed down from holding onto the ball.

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                              • #60
                                I really rate Perch. Think him returning will be a massive boost to our defence.

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