Ferdinand Speaks

[Timmy the Doc]

In summary: I think a significant improvement (play-offs) is possible within 5 years with a right manager, 2-3 successful signings and 1-2 loans. We don't need a 15 year plan to do that.

[Tarbie]

Tarbie. Boro at that time and just before were spending very big and was a great job for him to take and he also went to work for one of the top three chairman in english football. Rate McClaren the coach higher than McClaren the manager. Hoping he brings the players on and nicks a few results along the way.

Appreciated mate, but surely we know better than most fans that spending money doesn't guarantee success. I won't disagree with you regarding Maclaren being a better coach than he is a manager. But look at the set-up at the club at the moment, a decent Head Coach is exactly what we need.

Either way, I don't understand why there is so much negativity around this appointment. Personally I think this is the best managerial appointment (Warnock aside) that we've made in the last 10 years.

[OldR]

Faurlin being the only significant investment! You lost your case IMO! (thanks for a good link btw)

Yep, it's a great little site and some of the players we bought over the years are 'who?? '.

We were already the 'boutique' club when Warnock took over and we offered wages that were above anything most in the division could offer and definitely more than anything we had offered before.

It is ironic though that the difference was made by the introduction of 'no frills' players!

[1973 ranger]

Tarbie. Boro at that time and just before were spending very big and was a great job for him to take and he also went to work for one of the top three chairman in english football. Rate McClaren the coach higher than McClaren the manager. Hoping he brings the players on and nicks a few results along the way.

[Timmy the Doc]

The significant investment had already been made.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/queens...rs/verein/1039

It's a myth that Warnock was a great manager who got us promoted on a small budget. He was a good manager who worked out how to get the best out of a squad which had had significant investment but had failed to deliver.

Faurlin being the only significant investment! You lost your case IMO! (thanks for a good link btw)

[Tarbie]

his time with England a complete disaster so you'd think people would keep quiet about that rather than using it to big him up “oh he's an ex England manager dontcha know"

Surely you have to give him some credit for the many years of over achievement with Middlesborough that preceded his appointment as England manager mate?

[Undecided]

Think I've lost the thread here.

As I understand it significant investment is not on the cards, even with a change of ownership. The problem is ongoing FFP compliance, and an influx of funds doesn't make that go away.

[Norths]

Yep defo he's in the last chance saloon ! I'll wait to see how he manages for 10 or so games before jumping on the great coach band wagon , Les sez he's an ex England manager for young players to look up to but Les never said thousands upon thousands England fans looked at him as a cntu

his time with England a complete disaster so you'd think people would keep quiet about that rather than using it to big him up “oh he's an ex England manager dontcha know"

[Norths]

Where is Ginger and Matty Rangers anyone know ?

Kevin McLeod disappeared as well.

[West Acton]

Why do you automatically have to be a Les hater to critism a statement he has given ?

It’s an opinion like a rseholes we all have one Shania

[Shania]

Because your pragmatic and not a Les hater Tarbs

Why do you automatically have to be a Les hater to critism a statement he has given ?

[OldR]

Yes but we made significant improvement under Warnock in two years without massive spending, didn't we?

The significant investment had already been made.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/queens-park-rangers/transfers/verein/1039

It's a myth that Warnock was a great manager who got us promoted on a small budget. He was a good manager who worked out how to get the best out of a squad which had had significant investment but had failed to deliver.

[Shania]

I am very surprised that Mc Laren has not been supported more in the transfer market by the owners.
I don't think Mc laren also realised how bad things actually are at the club at present,before he signed up

This!!

[West Acton]

I’m not sure I agree. Who were the players signed season before??? Season we went up we got Hill Derry and everyone moaned it was bargain basement!!!! Ring any bells

[OldR]

I agree but playing devils advocate we went from relegation battle to best side in the division and promotion with next to no investment under Warnock

The difference is that significant investment had been made in the season before and that squad should never have been in a relegation fight. He just weaved together everything that was already in place with a few of his own additions.