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  • Brian Wilson
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    Originally posted by nasser95
    I have to fervently disagree with you on Faurlin, for me, he, hall and chery are the only three people I think should be absolutely guaranteed a starting spot when fit. He's the best midfielder in this division when he gets consistent game time.
    Fair enough..I'm a big fan of his but don't think he has the legs to play consistently throughout a long hard championship season.

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  • nasser95
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    Originally posted by Brian Wilson
    Id like to see Faurlin & Henry as squad players next year. Diakite will be gone and hopefully we can move on Tozser. We need a quality holding midfielder who is not injury prone. Not sure about Perch as starting rb...been very good on the left though. Don't think Luongo can play that rw role and yet to be convinced by what El Khayati can do.
    I have to fervently disagree with you on Faurlin, for me, he, hall and chery are the only three people I think should be absolutely guaranteed a starting spot when fit. He's the best midfielder in this division when he gets consistent game time.

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  • Brian Wilson
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    Id like to see Faurlin & Henry as squad players next year. Diakite will be gone and hopefully we can move on Tozser. We need a quality holding midfielder who is not injury prone. Not sure about Perch as starting rb...been very good on the left though. Don't think Luongo can play that rw role and yet to be convinced by what El Khayati can do though seems promising.

    so

    Smithies

    NewRB Onuoha Hall Perch

    NewDM Luongo

    NewRW Chery El Khayati

    Polter or Washington

    Presumably Philips & Hoilett will leave though Id keep both if terms were right...1 year for Hoilett..contract extension for MP.


    Originally posted by maidstone_hoop
    I think we have a farily good spine to build on for next season with players who want to actually play for us. I hope we retain faurlin, hill and henry as squad players to add to that mix and use when needed. I don't think it's such a rebuilding job this summer where we need to flash buy but a case of picking up 6 or 7 savvy acquisitions of championship standard players who add a little extra quality.

    Smithies

    perch ned hall robinson

    faurlin henry

    luongo chery naser

    Polter

    We potentially can field that 11 as a starting point if we retain faurlin and henry. It's about looking at that 11, various formation we can implement in different games and then trying to bring in 4 or 5 players to compliment this team and push it on to a team capable of challenging top 6.

    I reckon the 11 I put out above would be top 12. To push it on to a top 6 team I feel we could be stronger the DM/CM roles and I would like to see at least one high profile and championship ready signing in this position, ideally two. We will need to replace hoilett and phillips adequately with similar standard players if possible. We will also need a another cb if we dont re-sign Angella and probably rb cover.

    If we really want to go for it I would say this is harsh on Polter and maybe washington but if we want to challenge for top two id like to see us go and buy a top striker for this level.

    5 well thought out quality signings could really propel us to be a force next year with a couple of players added for squad rotation. We aren't to far away from challenging again imo and I think the board will back JFH.

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  • SuperHoopNik
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    New pacey full backs, a centre mid and a winger needed. That's all we need IMO.

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  • maidstone_hoop
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    I think we have a farily good spine to build on for next season with players who want to actually play for us. I hope we retain faurlin, hill and henry as squad players to add to that mix and use when needed. I don't think it's such a rebuilding job this summer where we need to flash buy but a case of picking up 6 or 7 savvy acquisitions of championship standard players who add a little extra quality.

    Smithies

    perch ned hall robinson

    faurlin henry

    luongo chery naser

    Polter

    We potentially can field that 11 as a starting point if we retain faurlin and henry. It's about looking at that 11, various formation we can implement in different games and then trying to bring in 4 or 5 players to compliment this team and push it on to a team capable of challenging top 6.

    I reckon the 11 I put out above would be top 12. To push it on to a top 6 team I feel we could be stronger the DM/CM roles and I would like to see at least one high profile and championship ready signing in this position, ideally two. We will need to replace hoilett and phillips adequately with similar standard players if possible. We will also need a another cb if we dont re-sign Angella and probably rb cover.

    If we really want to go for it I would say this is harsh on Polter and maybe washington but if we want to challenge for top two id like to see us go and buy a top striker for this level.

    5 well thought out quality signings could really propel us to be a force next year with a couple of players added for squad rotation. We aren't to far away from challenging again imo and I think the board will back JFH.

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  • Rangers77
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    Originally posted by nasser95
    Very much disagree with this, Luongo's got 5 assists, makes quite a few dribbles every game and generally pushes the ball forward well. I think he'll do well along Faurlin more consistently but it takes time to adapt.
    If you're happy with that you're very easily pleased. We don't have a central midfield. It's that simple. And, other then ten minutes per game, we never push the ball forward well and rarely score from a telling midfield pass.

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  • nasser95
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    Originally posted by Rangers77
    From what I've seen he's a squad player at best. Can play, but we haven't made good use of him. He's never a number 10. One goal all season from Faurlin/ Henry/ Luongo/ Tozer....... Very few assists, too. Two I can remember from Luongo. Central midfield has a real problem for us. Comms make the point every game. No matter what permutation plays. And it doesn't matter if we win or lose. Or draw 1-1. Central midfield can often be decent defensively, but offers nothing offensively.
    Very much disagree with this, Luongo's got 5 assists, makes quite a few dribbles every game and generally pushes the ball forward well. I think he'll do well along Faurlin more consistently but it takes time to adapt.

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  • Rangers77
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    Originally posted by Stanley
    Disagree about Luongo. He's shown enough promise and would keep him.
    From what I've seen he's a squad player at best. Can play, but we haven't made good use of him. He's never a number 10. One goal all season from Faurlin/ Henry/ Luongo/ Tozer....... Very few assists, too. Two I can remember from Luongo. Central midfield has a real problem for us. Comms make the point every game. No matter what permutation plays. And it doesn't matter if we win or lose. Or draw 1-1. Central midfield can often be decent defensively, but offers nothing offensively.

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  • hal9thou
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    Originally posted by stainrodisalegend
    Even if we do shed many of the high earners I'm not sure it will free up vast fortunes for JFH to spend. Don't forget this will simply reduce the huge amount we are spending over what we are earning. Some deals could involve subsidising their wages to get a move, while players like Sandro and Fer could well go for considerably less than we paid for them. With the loss of Sky money and the reduction next year in parachute payments I doubt very much that Tony and co will be thinking "great, we've saved so much money, lets go out on a spending spree." .
    Exactly.

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  • Shania
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    Phillips, Totzer, Nedum, Angella, Gladwin, Koncelsky, Traore, Green, Diakite, Furlong and Doughty should leave, IMO.

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  • dogsrrs
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    Centre backs Centre backs Centre backs 1st and foremost in other words top priority or in plain English before anything else

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  • Norths
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    Originally posted by Stanley
    Disagree about Luongo. He's shown enough promise and would keep him.
    Add a new CM to go with Lungo/Henry/Faurlin.

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  • Stanley
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    Originally posted by Rangers77
    Need a brand new central midfield. What we have isn't up to it.
    Disagree about Luongo. He's shown enough promise and would keep him.

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  • Rangers77
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    Need a brand new central midfield. What we have isn't up to it. Need to jog Phillips on. And need a specialist right back and another CB. Clint as player coach. And need to see Jimmy's two signings integrated into the team.

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  • deadendjob
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    It depends on which formation and tactics JFH wants to deploy. This season, he's inherited what Ramsey provided and to be honest, I can't see another formation on the cards this season.

    11 Players with contracts/loans expiring - I can see us renewing Henry & Faurlin, Hoilett I think will want more money and go elsewhere.
    4 out on loan I think we're looking to move on.
    The youngsters, I still don't feel are good enough to step up.

    8 New signings for me - 2x CB, 1x RB, 1x LB, 1x CM (assuming we keep Karl & Ale), 1x LM, 1x Striker

    Think the first team squad will look like:

    GOALKEEPERS

    9. Matt INGRAM
    13. Joe LUMLEY
    25. Alex SMITHIES


    DEFENDERS

    4. Grant HALL
    5. Nedum ONUOHA
    24. James PERCH
    40. Jack ROBINSON

    MIDFIELDERS

    8. Tjarron CHERY
    19. Abdenasser EL KHAYATI
    18. Alejandro FAURLIN
    20. Karl HENRY
    21. Massimo LUONGO
    12. Jamie MACKIE
    7. Matt PHILLIPS
    28. Daniel TOZSER

    STRIKERS
    33. Sebastian POLTER
    9. Conor WASHINGTON

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