Reality check

[James1979]

Most of the complaints seem to be about lack of money spent and so on. But if you look at our attendances and fan base, our income and potential would sit us 17th to 18th in league. We currently sit 10th, yet we think it’s a failure that we’re not in the top 6. It’s almost as though its our divine right to be there. We go on about a lack of money spent and the owners doing it on the cheap. We have consistently been a loss making club. These rich owners have provided the stability we’ve craved for ages.

Let’s look a the positives
1) we’re just outside playoffs
2) maybe I’ve seen different games to everyone else but games we’ve been rubbish we’ve won, when we’ve been average we’ve lost or drawn (maybe one victory at Sheffield), games we’ve been good we’ve drawn (most) and won. This team is good enough for the play-offs. Game at west brom proved that for me.

We need stability, consistency of selection (especially in defence) and a happy dressing room. IF Hart can provide this, we’ll be in top 6 this season.

PS. The comments about Buz during Mag saga were ridiculous. This guy is class and can propel us into top 6. I for one can’t wait to see him in the no 10 again this season.

[winalotto]

We are and always have been a small club, that occasionally punches above its weight.

[kingo]

Most of the complaints seem to be about lack of money spent and so on. But if you look at our attendances and fan base, our income and potential would sit us 17th to 18th in league. We currently sit 10th, yet we think it’s a failure that we’re not in the top 6. It’s almost as though its our divine right to be there. We go on about a lack of money spent and the owners doing it on the cheap. We have consistently been a loss making club. These rich owners have provided the stability we’ve craved for ages.

Let’s look a the positives
1) we’re just outside playoffs
2) maybe I’ve seen different games to everyone else but games we’ve been rubbish we’ve won, when we’ve been average we’ve lost or drawn (maybe one victory at Sheffield), games we’ve been good we’ve drawn (most) and won. This team is good enough for the play-offs. Game at west brom proved that for me.

We need stability, consistency of selection (especially in defence) and a happy dressing room. IF Hart can provide this, we’ll be in top 6 this season.

PS. The comments about Buz during Mag saga were ridiculous. This guy is class and can propel us into top 6. I for one can’t wait to see him in the no 10 again this season.

Agree with the majority of that, and if the owners have any sense they will get in the quality forwards we need and hopefully the team can fulfill its potential. Hopefully playing decent football and not the sort of stuff served up by Palace and Sheffield Utd.

[themodfather]

we fill our seats, c-club and boxes..that brings in ££££££££££££££ms

[Goddard]

Most of the complaints seem to be about lack of money spent and so on....

Well they shouldn't be.

If FB doesn't want to splash millions of his "hard-earned" on over-priced footballers, that's up to him.
Not a big problem with that. It's his money to spend how he chooses.

The problem is the relationship with the fans, and the barmy appointments/sackings of managers, which has held us back.

If he spent less on loan players, and more on ONE good, trusted, proven manager to run the whole football side of things... he'd have saved money. And we'd have more stabilty, unity and prospects for success.

That's the biggest complaint most fans have about his reign. Not the lack of funds for even more fairly average players.
In the last 2 years, we've actually spent shedloads of cash for a club our size... but apart from the initial surge after the takeover, we haven't moved forward at all.
Not in terms of gates, unity, spirit, reputation, progress, or even league position.

[Stanley]

Wimbledon, Norwich, Fulham and Charlton are examples of clubs the same size as ours who have achieved and maintained PL status in recent history.

If they can do it there's absolutely no reason why we cant either - especially when Europe's wealthiest man just happens to be one of your owners.

Nothing to do with being a "small club", "punching above your weight", "a selling club" and all those other excuses. Its all about having a sound structure from board room to pitch level, something we've never had since the takeover.

You wanna talk "reality check"? - Until that fundamental issue is tackled full on it just aint never gonna happen baby.

[ScottJones]

Wimbledon, Norwich, Fulham and Charlton are examples of clubs the same size as ours who have achieved and maintained PL status in recent history.

If they can do it there's absolutely no reason why we cant either - especially when Europe's wealthiest man just happens to be one of your owners.

Nothing to do with being a "small club", "punching above your weight", "a selling club" and all those other excuses. Its all about having a sound structure from board room to pitch level, something we've never had since the takeover.

You wanna talk "reality check"? - Until that fundamental issue is tackled full on it just aint never gonna happen baby.

Speak to anyone involved at Charlton and they based their project on us funnily enough

[Goddard]

Speak to anyone involved at Charlton and they based their project on us funnily enough

Time we returned the favour.
I mean, it's worked twice now.



Football can be quite simple, if you allow it to be.

[Stanley]

Speak to anyone involved at Charlton and they based their project on us funnily enough

Depends if youre talking post-Curbs era or not.

Football can be quite simple, if you allow it to be.

Precisely - but it would require your Chairman to leave his ego at the front door.

[ScottJones]

Time we returned the favour.
I mean, it's worked twice now.



Football can be quite simple, if you allow it to be.

Very true, Sir.

[Robsondinho]

Most of the complaints seem to be about lack of money spent and so on. But if you look at our attendances and fan base, our income and potential would sit us 17th to 18th in league. We currently sit 10th, yet we think it’s a failure that we’re not in the top 6. It’s almost as though its our divine right to be there. We go on about a lack of money spent and the owners doing it on the cheap. We have consistently been a loss making club. These rich owners have provided the stability we’ve craved for ages.

Let’s look a the positives
1) we’re just outside playoffs
2) maybe I’ve seen different games to everyone else but games we’ve been rubbish we’ve won, when we’ve been average we’ve lost or drawn (maybe one victory at Sheffield), games we’ve been good we’ve drawn (most) and won. This team is good enough for the play-offs. Game at west brom proved that for me.

We need stability, consistency of selection (especially in defence) and a happy dressing room. IF Hart can provide this, we’ll be in top 6 this season.

PS. The comments about Buz during Mag saga were ridiculous. This guy is class and can propel us into top 6. I for one can’t wait to see him in the no 10 again this season.

good post....I believe come may we will be top 6.

[Rich]

One thing is absolutely certain. I won't be holding my breath again in the next transfer window!

[twranger]

Most of the complaints seem to be about lack of money spent and so on. But if you look at our attendances and fan base, our income and potential would sit us 17th to 18th in league. We currently sit 10th, yet we think it’s a failure that we’re not in the top 6. It’s almost as though its our divine right to be there. We go on about a lack of money spent and the owners doing it on the cheap. We have consistently been a loss making club. These rich owners have provided the stability we’ve craved for ages.

Let’s look a the positives
1) we’re just outside playoffs
2) maybe I’ve seen different games to everyone else but games we’ve been rubbish we’ve won, when we’ve been average we’ve lost or drawn (maybe one victory at Sheffield), games we’ve been good we’ve drawn (most) and won. This team is good enough for the play-offs. Game at west brom proved that for me.

We need stability, consistency of selection (especially in defence) and a happy dressing room. IF Hart can provide this, we’ll be in top 6 this season.

PS. The comments about Buz during Mag saga were ridiculous. This guy is class and can propel us into top 6. I for one can’t wait to see him in the no 10 again this season.

Especially some on here questioning his sexuality - unbelievable and tabloid mentality at its highest:waaaht:

[ScottJones]

Especially some on here questioning his sexuality - unbelievable and tabloid mentality at its highest:waaaht:

That was probably me..I'm sure he likes men..not that it matters in fairness..and thats not homophobic, three of my best mates are gay...i have a good gaydar

[winalotto]

Wimbledon, Norwich, Fulham and Charlton are examples of clubs the same size as ours who have achieved and maintained PL status in recent history.

If they can do it there's absolutely no reason why we cant either - especially when Europe's wealthiest man just happens to be one of your owners.

Nothing to do with being a "small club", "punching above your weight", "a selling club" and all those other excuses. Its all about having a sound structure from board room to pitch level, something we've never had since the takeover.

You wanna talk "reality check"? - Until that fundamental issue is tackled full on it just aint never gonna happen baby.

Where are the Norwich's Charlton's and Wimbledon's of this world now?
I'd suggest they all were punching above there weight when in the prem league, Norwich have a bigger fan base then ours and could not maintain prem league status, its all to do with financing and stability and this club can't compete ( even with the owners) with the wages and cost that come with being in the Hollywood league , not on our crowds.