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  • QPROslo
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    Originally posted by SheepRanger View Post
    I think exactly the same but couldnt have written your summary to the same standard. Great post.

    Cheers, Sheep!

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  • Riverwild
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    Originally posted by Abseits View Post
    He's a dead man walking. He's gone in the summer, just keeping hotseat warm over coming few month for the next incumbent.
    Agree with you.

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  • SheepRanger
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    I think exactly the same but couldnt have written your summary to the same standard. Great post.

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  • QPROslo
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    I think we should rest assure that the future of Warburton has been adressed already, despite lack of an announcement. I find it unlikely that QPR will let a manager like Warburton, who can easily be picked up by other Championship clubs or foreign clubs, remain in the unknown about his future four months before the conclusion of his contract.

    My take is that there is a new contract lined up, but with one caviat: If the club gets relegated, there might not be a prolongiation. Another reason it may not yet be announced, might be that Warburton is dragging his feet, wanting to know what budget is available for next season before commiting to a new contract, or because he is holding out for a better financial package for himself. A club like Cardiff will surely sound out Warburton about the vacant job, and they can probably offer him a better deal than we can.

    Warburton has done well, consider the overhaul of the squad he has had to deal with two times in quick succession. Each time the salary budget has been cut in half. Few other managers would deal so well with that. We are still not out of the woods despite the two recent wins, but if we finish where we are now (17th) Warburton has done a good job.

    Aside from the results, Warburton has overseen the successful development of young players (Eze, BOS, Chair, Manning, Masterson, Kakay, Dickie), he has establish an attractive style of play, he has (together with Ferdinand and Hoos) delivered a good transfer surplus and he has developed very sellable assets for the future (first of all Dieng and Dickie, hopefully at one point others such as Willock, Dykes, Bonne, Kakay etc). If we, hypotetically, sell Dieng and Dickie for £20m during the next transfer window, the club has netted £40m+ in transfer fees on a spending of £5-6m. That very well done- obviously provided my assumption of the values of Dieng and Dickie are correct. Warburton needs to share the credit with Ferdinand, but he obviously has a big stake in the success.

    Warburton is certainly not a Premier League manager. If he was, he would not be here. Because he is not at that level, everything he has done has not been perfect, far from it. We tend to moan about his stubbornness at time, and I think that is fair. As an example, changing system from 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-2 should have been tried much earlier, given the problems we faced in front of both goals. But the fact it is far from perfect, does not mean he hasn't done a good job. The main problem this season is the fact we did not have money in the summer, when the owners were so scared of the potential consequences of covid for their own businesses that they were unwilling to come up with enough money to secure a decent striker. You don't get proven strikers at this level for £6k a month (Dykes, Bonne). I said for a long time that the owners will understand that it is contraproductive not to provide enough cash to sign an experienced striker on loan at he start of the January transfer window. I repeatedly said that this missing piece in the jigsaw is the big problm this season, not the manager. Austin is now in place and I think Warburton now has a squad that is good enough to steer us to safety, provided we find a replacement for Carroll of course.

    I think Warburton wants to stay. It looks like he works well with Ferdinand, Hoos, Ramsey, Eustace and the rest of the coaches. He enjoys it here, and I think he knows he has backing and patient bosses and owners, that are desperate to get out of the "sack a manager a year" strategy. I am looking forward to a new contract to be announced, and I will be sad if Cardiff or another club picks him up.

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  • SheepRanger
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    Originally posted by Abseits View Post

    I've wanted shot him for more than a year. I'm not blowing in the wind or revising my opinion every 5 minutes either. He's a bang average manager with a pisspoor record who's taking us nowhere. Obviously, if you are content with biding time for a few years going nowhere he IS the man for the job, I grant you that.
    I'm confident enough to say that if he the Norwich squad he'd have them in top spot same as Farke has done.

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  • Abseits
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    Originally posted by Jeffqpr View Post
    w years

    Talking rubbish, we are getting better & will improve, got to leave it till end of season & I can’t see us going down either, if the board is happy with him then so am I, we are no where near ready for prem yet & quite happy to bide our time in championship for next few years
    I've wanted shot him for more than a year. I'm not blowing in the wind or revising my opinion every 5 minutes either. He's a bang average manager with a pisspoor record who's taking us nowhere. Obviously, if you are content with biding time for a few years going nowhere he IS the man for the job, I grant you that.

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  • Jeffqpr
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    Originally posted by Shania View Post

    I disagree, I should believe the plan is to see how we(he) perform with new players coming in. Personally, I think he has improved as a coach and should be very close to getting a new contract.
    You was the first to say get rid of Him a few weeks back, changed your tune a bit

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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by Stainrod View Post
    The longer we take to not offer him a deal , the more the club is saying he is not wanted next season .Maybe that is their plan .
    I tend to disagree with you, I should believe the plan is to see how we(he) perform with new players coming in. Personally, I think he has improved as a coach and should be very close to getting a new contract.

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  • Jeffqpr
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    Originally posted by Abseits View Post
    I'd sack him tonight so new manager can come in now and have a chance ext to straighten us out in readiness for an assault on top 6 next season. Every day Warburton stays here is ballsing up next season more and more.
    Talking rubbish, we are getting better & will improve, got to leave it till end of season & I can’t see us going down either, if the board is happy with him then so am I, we are no where near ready for prem yet & quite happy to bide our time in championship for next few years

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  • Stainrod
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    Originally posted by Shania View Post
    I would wait and see where we are in May. I like the way he wants us to play, but I assume the owners have whispered a few words in his ears when it comes to tactics etc,etc. Make no mistake about it, I think he has improved in reading the match.
    The longer we take to not offer him a deal , the more the club is saying he is not wanted next season .Maybe that is their plan .

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  • Abseits
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    I'd sack him tonight so new manager can come in now and have a chance to straighten us out in readiness for an assault on top 6 next season. Every day Warburton stays here is ballsing up next season more and more.

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  • Shania
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    I would wait and see where we are in May. I like the way he wants us to play, but I assume the owners and Sir Les have whispered a few words in his ears when it comes to tactics and set-ups. On a clear positive note, make no mistake about it, I think he has improved in reading matches as they unfold. His substitutions are also more often than not spot on.

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  • FurtiveFox
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    I'd offer him two years. We have had our frustrations this season but bearing in mind our budget and the car crash he joined think he has done well overall. The squad overhaul summer 2019 and changes last summer would have relegated a lot of sides. We can't compete financially with most of this division.

    There are green shoots. We finally seem able to bring players through and we are set up in such a way we are competitive in most games. Club still seem to be planning for better things longer term. Longer term means a number of years. Until we reach whatever the eventual promised land will be we will be a small Championship side. That's just the way it is whoever we have as manager. There is a focus on the smaller clubs who overachieve (Brentford being obvious one) but they are the exceptions and can create unrealistic expectations.

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  • SheepRanger
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    Originally posted by Abseits View Post
    He's a dead man walking. He's gone in the summer, just keeping hotseat warm over coming few month for the next incumbent.
    He would have to be ex-Spurs do it's obviously going to be Osvaldo César Ardiles!

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  • Abseits
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    He's a dead man walking. He's gone in the summer, just keeping hotseat warm over coming few month for the next incumbent.

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