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Old 08-02-2010, 06:23 PM
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Begining of season to Watford Away:
Played: 20
Won: 7
Lost: 6
Drawn: 7
Win %: 35%
Not Losing %: 70%
Points Per Match: 1.4
Goals Scored Per Match: 1.65
Goals Conceded Per Match: 1.45
Form Guide For Full Season: 64 points = 10th for the last 2 seasons

Since Watford away:
Played: 8
Won: 1
Lost: 4
Drawn: 3
Win %: 12.5%
Not Losing %: 50%
Points Per Match: 0.75
Goals Scored Per Match: 0.875
Goals Conceded Per Match: 2
Form Guide For Full Season: 34 points = Bottom for the last 4 seasons

Sousa in the Championship
Played: 51
Won: 18
Lost: 10
Drawn: 23
Win %: 35%
Not Losing %: 80%

Points Per Match: 1.51
Goals Scored Per Match: 0.92
Goals Conceded Per Match: 0.76
Form Guide For Full Season: 69 points = 8th for the last 2 seasons

De Canio in the Championship
Played: 34
Won: 12
Lost: 11
Drawn: 11
Win %: 35%
Not Losing %: 67%

Points Per Match: 1.38
Goals Scored Per Match: 1.32
Goals Conceded Per Match: 1.47
Form Guide For Full Season: 63 points = 10th, 13th and 14th for the last 3 seasons
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ghood stats but baulk of them are at Swansea?

if you are going to do that than please include Leece's form too?
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ghood stats but baulk of them are at Swansea?

if you are going to do that than please include Leece's form too?
Last time I checked Lecce play in Italy???

Absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

That's like saying because Shevchenko scored 100 of goals at Milan you can make a comparison to suggest that he'd do the same in England.

The Championship is the 4th highest watched league in Europe (behind Spain, Germany and the Premiership) and is deemed by experts as more competitive than the top divisions in Scotland, France and Portugal. Success in the Championship is much harder than success in Serie B or any of the other European 2nd divisions.
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Here's one STAT from Lecce:

De Canio achieved 7 points from 10 matches and the club were relegated to Serie B.
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Whoops a daisey Peter...you can't argue with stats my old mukka...well, YOU can I suppose
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ghood stats but baulk of them are at Swansea?

if you are going to do that than please include Leece's form too?
Maybe..one of the lamest things i've read on these forums...

ty for the stats sirpie:very_sad:
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Sirpie good stats that show that QPR would almost certainly have fared much better this season if Sousa had not had his contract terminated.

We might not all have seen such great football as we did in October with Magilton, but it would have been better than last season with players such as Routledge, Buzsaky, Tarrabt & Simpson (presuming they would all have been signed on for Sousa).

And we definitely would have kept some more clean sheets and lost far less games along with consistancy than we did by appointing Magilton.
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Sirpie good stats that show that QPR would almost certainly have fared much better this season if Sousa had not had his contract terminated.

We might not all have seen such great football as we did in October with Magilton, but it would have been better than last season with players such as Routledge, Buzsaky, Tarrabt & Simpson (presuming they would all have been signed on for Sousa).

And we definitely would have kept some more clean sheets and lost far less games along with consistancy than we did by appointing Magilton.
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I still preferred Jim myself. I was well deflated with PS's footy style.

Point for some style for others, each to their own eh!

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ghood stats but baulk of them are at Swansea?

if you are going to do that than please include Leece's form too?
apparently Swansea are a poorer squad than us so surely his stats should be all the more impressive given thee fact they include Swansea results as well!
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according to jim gannon at peterboro,we are the worst second half team in the division?not sure if that is true;but it could well be.surely if so,it means we are not fit enough
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Heres a stat.......

Petes games as a pro footballer= 00000000000000000000

Petes games as a manager=00000000000000000000000000

Petes trophy cabinet as above=00000000000000000000000000

Check sousa's stats pete ........

You are like a dictators side kick ...and we all know what happens to them at the end.....
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Begining of season to Watford Away:
Played: 20
Won: 7
Lost: 6
Drawn: 7
Win %: 35%
Not Losing %: 70%
Points Per Match: 1.4
Goals Scored Per Match: 1.65
Goals Conceded Per Match: 1.45
Form Guide For Full Season: 64 points = 10th for the last 2 seasons

Since Watford away:
Played: 8
Won: 1
Lost: 4
Drawn: 3
Win %: 12.5%
Not Losing %: 50%
Points Per Match: 0.75
Goals Scored Per Match: 0.875
Goals Conceded Per Match: 2
Form Guide For Full Season: 34 points = Bottom for the last 4 seasons

Sousa in the Championship
Played: 51
Won: 18
Lost: 10
Drawn: 23
Win %: 35%
Not Losing %: 80%

Points Per Match: 1.51
Goals Scored Per Match: 0.92
Goals Conceded Per Match: 0.76
Form Guide For Full Season: 69 points = 8th for the last 2 seasons

De Canio in the Championship
Played: 34
Won: 12
Lost: 11
Drawn: 11
Win %: 35%
Not Losing %: 67%

Points Per Match: 1.38
Goals Scored Per Match: 1.32
Goals Conceded Per Match: 1.47
Form Guide For Full Season: 63 points = 10th, 13th and 14th for the last 3 seasons
Thanks for the well research stats, final nail in the coffin of this debate for me, also makes me sick to the teeth to think what could have been.

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Last time I checked Lecce play in Italy???

Absolutely no relevance whatsoever.

That's like saying because Shevchenko scored 100 of goals at Milan you can make a comparison to suggest that he'd do the same in England.

The Championship is the 4th highest watched league in Europe (behind Spain, Germany and the Premiership) and is deemed by experts as more competitive than the top divisions in Scotland, France and Portugal. Success in the Championship is much harder than success in Serie B or any of the other European 2nd divisions.
Don't expect a reasoned response or better still a response at all.

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apparently Swansea are a poorer squad than us so surely his stats should be all the more impressive given thee fact they include Swansea results as well!
I read the Swans Forum a lot, for much of Sept and start of October did you know Swansea were without 11 first teamers and obviously minus their 2 best players who had been sold following Martinez's exit.

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according to jim gannon at peterboro,we are the worst second half team in the division?not sure if that is true;but it could well be.surely if so,it means we are not fit enough
Always toff my hat to Dowie for bringing in John Harbin for that. Though Sousa should also take credit for recognising the great work he was doing with the players fitness and continuing that relationship after Dowie was sacked.

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according to jim gannon at peterboro,we are the worst second half team in the division?not sure if that is true;but it could well be.surely if so,it means we are not fit enough
we have normally been a much better team in the 2nd half especially at home.
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according to jim gannon at peterboro,we are the worst second half team in the division?not sure if that is true;but it could well be.surely if so,it means we are not fit enough
I did see a second half league table but i cant find it now that put us 2nd bottom i think it was.

The half-time table currently puts us in a playoff place;

1. Newcastle 28 16 8 4 27 7 +20 56
2. Middlesbrough 29 14 10 5 18 9 +9 52
3. West Brom 29 12 13 4 28 11 +17 49
4. Nottm Forest 29 12 12 5 21 7 +14 48
5. Cardiff 28 12 11 5 30 16 +14 47
6. QPR 28 10 11 7 22 16 +6 41
7. Doncaster 27 9 12 6 15 12 +3 39
8. Blackpool 29 8 14 7 17 16 +1 38
9. Coventry 29 8 11 10 15 17 -2 35
10. Ipswich 28 7 14 7 16 18 -2 35
11. Sheffield Weds 29 8 11 10 21 25 -4 35
12. Bristol City 28 7 14 7 11 16 -5 35
13. Crystal Palace 28 7 13 8 14 13 +1 34
14. Sheffield United 29 6 16 7 16 15 +1 34
15. Swansea 28 5 19 4 10 10 0 34
16. Watford 28 8 10 10 17 21 -4 34
17. Derby 29 6 15 8 10 16 -6 33
18. Reading 28 7 11 10 14 19 -5 32
19. Scunthorpe 28 8 8 12 11 20 -9 32
20. Leicester 27 6 13 8 12 14 -2 31
21. Preston 28 7 10 11 16 21 -5 31
22. Barnsley 28 4 14 10 11 22 -11 26
23. Plymouth 27 3 13 11 7 16 -9 22
24. Peterboro 29 4 7 18 9 31 -22 19
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