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    Originally Posted by West Acton
    Where I would agree with you is he needs to get this view out his head that he’s a ball playing CB as for me that’s where most of his incidents with him occur when he gets caught with it, but as a simple defender tackling, heading and clearing lines he’s pretty good.

    Ned if your reading stop playing out and 99% of your problems will vanish
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    Originally Posted by West Acton
    Where I would agree with you is he needs to get this view out his head that he’s a ball playing CB as for me that’s where most of his incidents with him occur when he gets caught with it, but as a simple defender tackling, heading and clearing lines he’s pretty good.

    Ned if your reading stop playing out and 99% of your problems will vanish
    Problems for him occur in possession when nobody shows for the ball, that's when he delays sometimes and loses it.
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    Originally Posted by Olly
    Problems for him occur in possession when nobody shows for the ball, that's when he delays sometimes and loses it.
    I know then panics and tries carrying through opposition. Should just go back to keeper and start again as tho I majority would prefer that then getting caught and put on back foot

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    Originally Posted by MattyRangers
    Canít even believe thereís people that wouldnít have him in our starting 11 tbh.
    Why canít you believe it?

    Iím not saying heís our worst defender or our best but heís been at fault for quite a few goals in the past and that surely makes you vulnerable to be dropped.

    Holloway clearly likes him so it seems when heís fit heíll play and yes our results have been decent lately with him in the side but you canít keep making mistakes and getting away with it. Surely

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    Originally Posted by Bigdave
    Why can’t you believe it?

    I’m not saying he’s our worst defender or our best but he’s been at fault for quite a few goals in the past and that surely makes you vulnerable to be dropped.

    Holloway clearly likes him so it seems when he’s fit he’ll play and yes our results have been decent lately with him in the side but you can’t keep making mistakes and getting away with it. Surely
    If you look at the points we've picked up with Ned in the side against points picked up without him, it's a pretty compelling argument for him to start when fit. I'm not saying on individual merit he's the best centre half that we have, he isn't, I'm not even sure he's the 2nd best. But his overall influence on the team is clearly a positive one and we pick up far more points when he plays.
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    Originally Posted by West Acton
    Where I would agree with you is he needs to get this view out his head that he’s a ball playing CB as for me that’s where most of his incidents with him occur when he gets caught with it, but as a simple defender tackling, heading and clearing lines he’s pretty good.

    Ned if your reading stop playing out and 99% of your problems will vanish
    Thing is though Wests, sometimes he does go on runs from the oppo's half which have been really good and have resulted in good chances.

    Originally Posted by West Acton
    Should just go back to keeper and start again
    But he already does that a helluva a lot. I think his weaknesses are more to do with concentration lapses and errors of judgement. I agree with you on what his strengths are though.

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    Old bob hazel used to manage it well, his steaming runs he used to go on, but i even wince when ned plays a straight pass, like yesterday, how many times did he play a straight forward pass & he pretty much over hit most of them, resulting in our player miscontrolling it, and it coming straight back, agree with westy he needs to just concentrate on defending.

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    Originally Posted by Bigdave
    Why canít you believe it?

    Iím not saying heís our worst defender or our best but heís been at fault for quite a few goals in the past and that surely makes you vulnerable to be dropped.

    Holloway clearly likes him so it seems when heís fit heíll play and yes our results have been decent lately with him in the side but you canít keep making mistakes and getting away with it. Surely
    You can't ignore that since he came back from injury our results have improved.
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    Originally Posted by Ginger Ninja
    You can't ignore that since he came back from injury our results have improved.
    I said in my post that results have improved since he’s returned and I honestly don’t think he’s that bad I just don’t think he’s that good either

    But it’s all about opinions

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    Originally Posted by Bigdave
    I said in my post that results have improved since he’s returned and I honestly don’t think he’s that bad I just don’t think he’s that good either

    But it’s all about opinions
    He's not the best defender in the world, I'll give you that.
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    For me, Ned just doesn't look comfortable with the ball. Not saying he's a bad player but I just get really nervous when he has possession. Can't see him ever being more than a Championship player.
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    Don't think anybody is saying he is a world beater, but we are a lower Championship side and he is more than adequate for where we are. Given our other CB options, he is a guaranteed started IMO (which is what I meant in my above comment about I can't believe people wouldn't start him - who would you start instead?).
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    Originally Posted by MattyRangers
    Don't think anybody is saying he is a world beater, but we are a lower Championship side and he is more than adequate for where we are. Given our other CB options, he is a guaranteed started IMO (which is what I meant in my above comment about I can't believe people wouldn't start him - who would you start instead?).

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    Originally Posted by Olly
    Problems for him occur in possession when nobody shows for the ball, that's when he delays sometimes and loses it.
    This. Onuha's biggest weakness (IMO) is the panic he has when he gets closed down from holding onto the ball.

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    I really rate Perch. Think him returning will be a massive boost to our defence.

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