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A good start from the team, much better than I and others had expected (and well done to Ollie for the surprising opening 4 games - bar the expected defeat at Norwich) but imo it is too early to start saying that you have been proved right in seeing what you see about him. You could have waited a few more games,but then again it is not surprising as you started a similar thread in January after the 6 game losing streak had been ended with a couple of wins. Enjoy the moment (hopefully it will last throughout the season).
I agree with Ricky's point about Ollie and his tactical skills as well as his view that the squad is not as bad as some have said. I too remember many of those games in his previous spell as manager hence my conviction that he is the wrong man for the job, Warnock on the other hand would have been a better choice (Cardiff are doing quite well too and next week should be very interesting).
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Originally posted by stanistheman View PostA good start from the team, much better than I and others had expected (and well done to Ollie for the surprising opening 4 games - bar the expected defeat at Norwich) but imo it is too early to start saying that you have been proved right in seeing what you see about him. You could have waited a few more games,but then again it is not surprising as you started a similar thread in January after the 6 game losing streak had been ended with a couple of wins. Enjoy the moment (hopefully it will last throughout the season).
I agree with Ricky's point about Ollie and his tactical skills as well as his view that the squad is not as bad as some have said. I too remember many of those games in his previous spell as manager hence my conviction that he is the wrong man for the job, Warnock on the other hand would have been a better choice (Cardiff are doing quite well too and next week should be very interesting).
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Originally posted by corbray View Postthe team is playing well and i agree that's down to ollie, hes got us off to a great start. we all got wound up after he messed around with formations and tactics last season but hopefully he won't try that again anytime soon! he's defo got us playing with so much more confidence and spirit which is exactly what the teams been lacking, even 1-0 down yesterday we always looked capable of getting back in it and didn't start playing nervously.
loved the game yesterday and long may it continue!
as for people who don't like ollie pinks, they want nothing more than to be proven wrong by ollie in the long term, it's only 4 games into the league so far so it might be too early to call them out on not supporting him. i know we got a bit of stick (mainly you, the rest of us olliephiles managed to slip under the radar for the best part at the time) but i do fully get why people didn't like ollie last season, at times i was even getting a bit sick of the stuff he was doing
Well said Corbray.
I'd absolutely love to be proved wrong by Ollie but 2 home wins and an away draw after 4 games (albeit games many of us expected little from), is imo too early for this type of thread. Afterall, Pinkie criticises those of us who post any sort of negative comment shortly after a defeat, yet here he is with this type of thread again after 3 weeks in August.
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I didnt take that the OP calling anyone out or was rubbing anyones nose in the fact weve had a good start ,just asking if all the anti Ollie brigade ,who have spent most of the summer banging on about how pony Ollie is , could now see a glimmer of hope and weren`t quite as negative as before ,thats all.Rangers,Scooters ,Tunes and Trainers
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Originally posted by vespa View Postjust asking if all the anti Ollie brigade ,who have spent most of the summer banging on about how pony Ollie is , could now see a glimmer of hope and weren`t quite as negative as before ,thats all.
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Originally posted by stanistheman View PostA good start from the team, much better than I and others had expected (and well done to Ollie for the surprising opening 4 games - bar the expected defeat at Norwich) but imo it is too early to start saying that you have been proved right in seeing what you see about him. You could have waited a few more games,but then again it is not surprising as you started a similar thread in January after the 6 game losing streak had been ended with a couple of wins. Enjoy the moment (hopefully it will last throughout the season).
I agree with Ricky's point about Ollie and his tactical skills as well as his view that the squad is not as bad as some have said. I too remember many of those games in his previous spell as manager hence my conviction that he is the wrong man for the job, Warnock on the other hand would have been a better choice (Cardiff are doing quite well too and next week should be very interesting).
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Originally posted by vespa View PostI didnt take that the OP calling anyone out or was rubbing anyones nose in the fact weve had a good start ,just asking if all the anti Ollie brigade ,who have spent most of the summer banging on about how pony Ollie is , could now see a glimmer of hope and weren`t quite as negative as before ,thats all.
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Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostWonder if any club has ever been relegated from this divison with 7 points out of the first 12
Still sticking with my pre-season prediction of a comfortable top ten finish. A quality striker in on loan could make the difference between that and a play-off place, but absolutely no point if it's going to disrupt the team spirit. Much rather see them all playing for each other and at least providing some decent entertaining football. Big difference so far from the tripe we had to endure for the last couple of years.
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Originally posted by West London is Rss View PostHave nothing against Ollie, not sure why anyone would as an R's fan but I don't think he's the long-term answer for us and I would personally like and would of had someone in place right now who is the long-term answer - but whilst the team is doing well and happy, I'm all smiles!
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Originally posted by Pinkie View PostYou see i really dont understand this at all, whats the longest serving manager we`ve ever had? whats the long term?! is ollie 89 years old & isnt going to last another few years!
The long term for me is someone who is a little younger and a little more dynamic with modern techniques who is able to build us and grow themself, as a manager - Gary Rowett, Paul Clement, Garry Monk etc. I'd like to build and get to somewhere like where Southampton are and I don't think Ollie could ever do that with us, he's more in the mould of a Neil Warnock where he'd only be able to take a team he is with so far... Nigel Adkins, Nigel Pearson etc.
Listen, Ollie could well stay here for the long-term and prove me wrong but it's just what I'd prefer, what I like and how I feel. If we got promoted into the Premier League with Ollie I personally would change manager.Last edited by West London is Rss; 21-08-2017, 11:41 AM.
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Again i dont get that ollie can only take this team so far, what makes you think that any of those mentioned can take us further! what like in europe in the prem! football is a simple game and id love to see one of these so called supa managers here as they wouldnt fair much better at all without top players at there disposal! all this obnoxiousness about other managers being more tactically aware who we could have, it cracks me up, its about what players youve got and most importantly how you work as a group, obviously tactics have to be right but everyone needs to be pulling in the same direction & fighting for each other, without that you can have all youre supa intelligent dynamic forward thinking managers all you like they still wont do any good without the togetherness and spirit!
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