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  • If you're going to sack a manager...

    FAR better to do it now than 10 games or more into a new season.

    Let's review Fernandes record of QPR managers so far:

    Hughes
    Redknapp
    Ramsey
    JFH
    Holloway

    ALL of them brought in midway through seasons. Throughout his tenure it has always been this firefighting and reactive (to fan pressure) approach. Never an approach with any clear foresight, vision and informed planning. Just lurching and stumbling blind from one mess to the next. It's the difference between QPR and Southampton, Watford and Swansea as examples of clubs who do regularly change their managers but where the key difference is they all have an underlying structure and policy in place in which the new managers just pick up the baton and continue the work, without any wholesale changes like we witness here every year.

    What does this pattern tell you folks? It clearly tells me that we have a man at the reins totally incapable of learning from his past mistakes in the 6.5 years he's been at the club.

    If he does not get rid of Holloway now and waits until the season starts it will be yet another ruined season and further indication (as if we still need it) that he still hasn't learnt the errors of his ways.

    OTOH the alternative would be to pledge to give Holloway at least one full season, come hell or high water. Perversely I would actually have greater respect for Fernandes if he did that over his usual pattern of following the one above.

    Yesterday I gave a deeper analysis of the issues:

    Originally posted by West Acton View Post
    Fairness to Ollie he was offered job and took it so the problem is deeper than him as why was he ever considered a candidate let alone offered the role
    Yes, the problem is deeper, that much is obvious. Ollie was offered the job because he was cheap, because he's a QPR man and because the board believed it would be a popular decision with the fans. So there you have three reasons to absolutely NEVER recruit a football manager, if it's for those reasons alone! It was a totally amateurish decision and proves that they've learnt nothing in the 6.5 years they took over the club.

    Les Ferdinand, another man who was picked because it was perceived as being a popular appointment by the fans. Again, another absolutely disastrous appointment. Just look at his track record so far of managers under his watch for proof of that.

    Tony Fernandes, the fool and his money so easily parted - and one who never seems to learn from his mistakes. His legacy at QPR is to appoint managers and DOF's who he thinks will be popular with the fans because the most important thing to him is to be loved and to feel popular. This personality shortcoming has proven to be his downfall because there is absolutely no more important a decision a chairman can make than the people you employ when, like Fernandes, you know nothing of the industry you're getting involved with.

    Tony Fernandes' appointments have been his downfall these past 6.5 years because he has based them not on sound judgement and informed footballing nous, but instead on what he thinks will make him feel popular with the fans and playing to the gallery. The Redknapp one, another classic example of this where he saw the 'Come save us Harry' banner in the stands and once again acted on it stupidly, compulsively, without thinking it through or getting the right advice from people who know the industry.

    So yes, West Acton, you are of course correct that the problems at QPR FC lie far far deeper than the current incompetent incumbent who once again was appointed for all the wrong reasons and thus was another brain dead decision.

  • #2
    Hughes - Got a full pre-season
    Redknapp - Got a full pre-season
    Ramsey - Got a full pre-season
    JFH - Got a full pre-season
    Holloway - Got a full pre-season

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    • #3
      Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
      Holloway - Got a full pre-season
      Not yet!

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      • #4
        If they sack him now (and God knows they should) they will have to pay him the remaining TWO years of his contract which could be an expense they don't want.
        Maybe (or maybe not) he will do the decent thing and walk away after the almost disastrous part season he has been in charge.
        The team must be bewildered at all the tinkering which he has adopted throughout his tenure and look forward to the strongest team playing to a pattern which they understand and are happy with.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
          Hughes - Got a full pre-season
          Redknapp - Got a full pre-season
          Ramsey - Got a full pre-season
          JFH - Got a full pre-season
          Holloway - Got a full pre-season
          That wasn't my point.

          I guess you didn't read the post properly.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stanley View Post
            That wasn't my point.

            I guess you didn't read the post properly.
            Dont be precious, I am just stating that they all did...


            And Ollie wont be sacked IMO

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            • #7
              Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
              Dont be precious, I am just stating that they all did...


              And Ollie wont be sacked IMO
              Not being precious at all mate. Just making the point that he's never made an appointment in the close season. All 5 of them have been mid-season and reactive appointments - which essentially tells you the story of his Chairmanship so far.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                Not being precious at all mate. Just making the point that he's never made an appointment in the close season. All 5 of them have been mid-season and reactive appointments - which essentially tells you the story of his Chairmanship so far.
                Well, the fans speak and want and then the manager is sacked. Unless you are Harry and have a dodgy knee.

                Not ideal, but he's too reactive, sacking Ollie would be the same.

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                • #9
                  He needs to be sacked now, right now.

                  i will not support any sackings once the new season has started. we need to break the cycle that Stan has posted above.who is going to be available in november....... chris powell? if the rot in charge will not act now, they deserve everything thats coming to them.

                  the nut is a lost cause and like dof and the pe teacher, they have not got half a brain between them.
                  nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
                    Well, the fans speak and want and then the manager is sacked.
                    And therein lies the problem.

                    Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
                    Not ideal, but he's too reactive, sacking Ollie would be the same.
                    I agree. But sacking Ollie once the season has begun would be a lot more damaging than making the change now. For once under TF he needs to stick with a manager for the full course of a season, come what may.

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                    • #11
                      If the fans speak, Fernandes listens and reacts, then why don't all you Les haters go and put a banner up at Loftus Road?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                        And therein lies the problem.



                        I agree. But sacking Ollie once the season has begun would be a lot more damaging than making the change now. For once under TF he needs to stick with a manager for the full course of a season, come what may.
                        Sure, so you stick with him and to your guns because that is what is best for the club as a whole. Not just 1 season.

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                        • #13
                          Agree with the OP, sack him now or commit for the season, then change only if we are in deep trouble.

                          I take the main point being reactionary decisions are nearly always rash ones. Need to stop that cycle.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
                            Sure, so you stick with him and to your guns because that is what is best for the club as a whole. Not just 1 season.
                            That's fine, assuming you're prepared to accept the significant risk of us being relegated to League One under Ollie, for the sake of long-term stability and progress of the club.

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                            • #15
                              I agree he should go now or full season.
                              Who do people think we should get in from availability and realistically, if they want to come to us with a limited summer budget.

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