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    Originally Posted by Hubble
    Tim, have a read of this very interesting study: http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-res...ource=facebook

    Some key findings from the study:


    *Vaccinated children were more than three times as likely to be diagnosed on the Autism Spectrum (OR 4.3)

    *Vaccinated children were 30-fold more likely to be diagnosed with allergic rhinitis (hay fever) than non-vaccinated children

    * Vaccinated children were 22-fold more likely to require an allergy medication than unvaccinated children

    *Vaccinated children had more than quadruple the risk of being diagnosed with a learning disability than unvaccinated children (OR 5.2)

    *Vaccinated children were 300 percent more likely to be diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder than unvaccinated children (OR 4.3)

    * Vaccinated children were 340 percent (OR 4.4) more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia than unvaccinated children

    *Vaccinated children were 300 percent more likely to be diagnosed with an ear infection than unvaccinated children (OR 4.0)

    *Vaccinated children were 700 percent more likely to have surgery to insert ear drainage tubes than unvaccinated children (OR 8.01)

    * Vaccinated children were 2.5-fold more likely to be diagnosed with any chronic illness than unvaccinated children
    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...ead-yet-again/

    Statistics eh?
    Last edited by 1QPRDK; 09-06-2017 at 12:39 AM. Reason: better link

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    Here are some other stats you probably wont like Hubs

    https://thoughtscapism.com/2015/04/1...inated-people/


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    Originally Posted by 1QPRDK
    Here are some other stats you probably wont like Hubs

    https://thoughtscapism.com/2015/04/1...inated-people/
    Why wouldn't I like it? It's not a game. Big pharma has a vested interest in supporting the view you're citing, but its studies are rarely double-blind - when double blind studies are proposed they get shot down for being unethical (as they would deny children "life saving" medical treatment) and it is also very difficult now to find unvaccinated groups to serve as experimental controls.

    Helps understand the importance of this data. Of course larger more complete trials should be done in this vein.

    If you explore the field you find there is resistance and little funding for it. Lets hope some more real science does get done on it though.

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    Originally Posted by Hubble
    Why wouldn't I like it? It's not a game. Big pharma has a vested interest in supporting the view you're citing, but its studies are rarely double-blind - when double blind studies are proposed they get shot down for being unethical (as they would deny children "life saving" medical treatment) and it is also very difficult now to find unvaccinated groups to serve as experimental controls.

    Helps understand the importance of this data. Of course larger more complete trials should be done in this vein.

    If you explore the field you find there is resistance and little funding for it. Lets hope some more real science does get done on it though.
    Oh you mean "one study to rule them all" like in the final link I posted.

    Problem is that the study you quoted first is terrible science, Hubble, and funded by well known antivaccine proponents. Vested interests indeed.

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    The Camp Hill movement which follows Rudolf Steiner`s Philosophy is quiet "anti" when it comes to vaccination.

    Read this:
    http://www.anthrposophy.org.uk/

    And this:
    http://www.anthrmed.org/Article.aspx?artpk=764

    The third paragraph is scary reading as I see it.
    Last edited by Shania; 13-06-2017 at 06:30 PM.
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