The players are thick

[Alanwycombe]

But that was not your point

Yes mate, I said 'organises'. He clearly doesn't or some of your original points would be addressed.

[Stanley]

Excellent OP Wests. Bang on in all your points.

[The Leveller]

If you set up a team that provides no cover for LB and LB and no width for most of the match, then the oppo will play one two's around and into space which is what happened last night.

There were large open spaces last night as we made them as we were so narrow and they had the space to play.

[Shania]

Not sure they are thick, but they clearly need an experienced coach and a leader in the middle of the park. Most likely we should never have sold Barton and Faurlin.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Agree about Henry but most of the internet desnt like him or want him to play so he doesnt play anymore.

[72bus]

if u can't play football then u need to learn to stop the opposition , man mark , get in their shorts not sit back and let them play nifty triangles round you . we lack game awareness as well as heart and aggression. i see it in glimpses but we don't work hard enough off the ball . every time sylla lost the ball last night he gave up , at least make it hard for the fella that tackles you ! give up like sylla does and eventually you'll start moaning at refs and just become ineffective like he did for most of last night .

[Hertford Hoop]

Stupid, thick or just plain lazy all could be labelled at them. We are missing Hill and Faurlin massively imo

[3London]

Not thick but certainly confused... The constant tinkering and whistling from the sideline from both jfh and hid sidekick ..put the players in their right position ..pick a system and stick to it for more than a game at a time...bad choices every step of the way.

[Bigdave]

For me the blame lies solely with the manager.

He sets us up, he tells the players what he wants them to do when we have the ball and when we don't.

And when it's not working, like on Friday night and the opposition begin to run rings round you, your confidence drains.

I agree at times the players need to think on their heels but the message is obviously clear from the manager "play my way or you won't play at all".

We do lack leaders, that's clear to see, but we also lack a direction because when you watch us thee is no pattern of play at all.

I can honestly see this continuing all season, win 1 lose 1 draw 1 lose 2 win 1 and LF giving JFH as much time as possible to get it right.

It's a mess

[Bigdave]

Most likely we should never have sold Barton and Faurlin.

Nah ain't having Barton.

Runs around a lot but does naff all more.

Much more trouble than he's worth.

[Bigdave]

If you set up a team that provides no cover for LB and LB and no width for most of the match, then the oppo will play one two's around and into space which is what happened last night.

There were large open spaces last night as we made them as we were so narrow and they had the space to play.

I agree with that 100%

F in shame our great manager didn't see it

[Rich]

I've said for ages that this clown is clueless. He sets them up and is supposed to get the players to buy into his theories. The players don't know what he wants them to do and/or don't believe what he's asking for them.

The original poster is right though. The players need to show football intelligence of their own. If you're a pro, reading the game and understanding it thoroughly is the most important requirement. When I've run sides and when I play vets football now I would rather have or be a player who isn't as fit but reads the game well. We have professional footballers earning a good living out of playing and they struggle with the most important aspect.

We need a Warnock type man manager who get the best out of the players but also a manager who quickly understands who his best players are and in what positions. Now here's the key bit: If your 8th best player happens to be your 3rd best centre mid and you're playing 442 then your 8th best player needs to be sub. This is the biggest issue for us and has been for years.

[3London]

A recurring theme is how quickly other teams manage to go from defence to attack against us ..they cut through our midfield like a knife through butter...our build up play is so ponderous and obvious we very rarely counter attack with speed. It seems that all of our players need at least 3 touches of of the ball every time it comes to them - chery is the biggest culprit of this. the opposition work us out too easily.

[Shepherds Mush]

Just don't have enough Championship standard players to make a decent first XI.

[lymehoop]

the space we gave Brentford in the middle and on the right was shocking. The result was obvious after 10 minutes. Players have responsibility but it's the manager that needs to react to the situation