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  • #61
    Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post
    Well I hope he can as I see him being our only hope because I can't see anybody else at the club who can organize and get through to the player's about team shape and have the player's playing for him
    Sorry, you've lost me there. JFH is the manager, so who else would there be "at the club" to do that?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Stanley View Post
      Sorry, you've lost me there. JFH is the manager, so who else would there be "at the club" to do that?
      Maybe you didn't catch my drift , both Ferdinand and Ramsey brought player's in that they couldn't work , for that reason I only see J F H who can run the playing side of the club meaning there is no fall back so we would have to gamble on bringing someone in after the season had started which would be starting afresh , don't write off Ferdinand being tempted of putting Ramsey in again as caretaker
      Last edited by dogsrrs; 29-04-2016, 08:19 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Stanley View Post
        Sorry, you've lost me there. JFH is the manager, so who else would there be "at the club" to do that?
        Think he meant that we`ve had enough of managerial changes at the club for a while now.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by dogsrrs
          Don't know what happen here tried to delete
          No worries. Ok, I get your drift now.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hal9thou View Post
            I've seen this line trotted out a few times by different people. But....

            .... How do you know he's any good at rebuilding? How do you know he's up to it? Just because he's younger than Harry & NW doesn't mean he's capable of a rebuild job.

            (BTW I wouldn't have Harry at any price except for a round of golf and a tip, and as an Rs supporter I'd have to apologise to NW before having the face to ask him anywhere near LR.)
            At the same time, how do you know he's NOT upto the task? This rebuild isn't going to be a quick process, it could take a couple of seasons, and fans need to be willing to give him a fair crack.
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            • #66
              You're all wrong. Redknapp/The Club first of all had to get rid of lots of dross from the previous season who preferred to take big pay cheques than play, then repair a dressing room hopelessly split between Warnock's players and the rich idiots recruited by Hughes, then had to build a team full of short term contract and loan players to get promoted. Warnock should never have been sacked in the first place after taking us up in the finest season I can remember for a very long time and Chris Ramsay shouldn't have been made permanent manager. This season's side was at least good enough reach the play offs if not better had we not started with a rookie manager.

              Should we blame the managers....of course not, just the idiots running the club who have specialised in making one bad decision after another, burning an obscene £300M in the process.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                At the same time, how do you know he's NOT upto the task? This rebuild isn't going to be a quick process, it could take a couple of seasons, and fans need to be willing to give him a fair crack.
                This, in my opinion. As I have stated countless times on here, I look forward to the day when we have a team with the same grit and termination like Burnley, Leicester and ie. CP have. This will ofcourse not be easy to acheive in a short space of time. We will most probably experiece a lot of activity with regards to transfers in and out this summer, but finding the winning formula in just one transfer window is not much likely. JFH will at least need the next season from August to May to get things right. Specificly; We do have to find a real good CB, a couple of midfielders who can really make an impact on the creative side of our play, and we do at least need 2 or 3 additions up front. Phillips wants to leave. Apperently so does Hoilett aswell. Washington; good enough or not? I don´t know. I actually think we have cover for Phillips in Petrasso.
                Anyway; If we can find a quality CB, A midfield maestro and a top striker this summer, it will be a start. A really good one, I must say.
                Last edited by Shania; 30-04-2016, 11:13 AM.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by amusant View Post
                  You're all wrong. Redknapp/The Club first of all had to get rid of lots of dross from the previous season who preferred to take big pay cheques than play, then repair a dressing room hopelessly split between Warnock's players and the rich idiots recruited by Hughes, then had to build a team full of short term contract and loan players to get promoted. Warnock should never have been sacked in the first place after taking us up in the finest season I can remember for a very long time and Chris Ramsay shouldn't have been made permanent manager. This season's side was at least good enough reach the play offs if not better had we not started with a rookie manager.

                  Should we blame the managers....of course not, just the idiots running the club who have specialised in making one bad decision after another, burning an obscene £300M in the process.
                  That is beyond doubt the truest opinion of this whole Redknapp debate IMO most of the posters just want to blame H R because things never went the way they expected to as I have said repeatedly the mass abuse of HR takes the real offenders out from under the microscope

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by amusant View Post
                    You're all wrong. Redknapp/The Club first of all had to get rid of lots of dross from the previous season who preferred to take big pay cheques than play, then repair a dressing room hopelessly split between Warnock's players and the rich idiots recruited by Hughes, then had to build a team full of short term contract and loan players to get promoted. Warnock should never have been sacked in the first place after taking us up in the finest season I can remember for a very long time and Chris Ramsay shouldn't have been made permanent manager. This season's side was at least good enough reach the play offs if not better had we not started with a rookie manager.

                    Should we blame the managers....of course not, just the idiots running the club who have specialised in making one bad decision after another, burning an obscene £300M in the process.
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                    • #70
                      i am in total disagreement to the hit man i think its all about management and i think jimmy floyde chris ramsey and les ferdinand are crap managers
                      they may well be nice players but being nice wont nessessry win anything
                      you need nasty to be a manager
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by qprted View Post
                        i am in total disagreement to the hit man i think its all about management and i think jimmy floyde chris ramsey and les ferdinand are crap managers
                        they may well be nice players but being nice wont nessessry win anything
                        you need nasty to be a manager
                        Was Colin a nasty manager? No.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Mellowhoop View Post
                          Warnock from August would have had us playoffs.
                          warnock was doing just fine when he was temporarily in charge in November and woild have got the team in the top 6 by Christmas and who knows where they would be now ....possibly top 2 given how Hull and now Middlesboro have been dropping points.

                          The appointment of JFH was 2 steps backward and he took 8 or more games to register a win, losing a lot of ground and players along the way.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by amusant View Post
                            You're all wrong. Redknapp/The Club first of all had to get rid of lots of dross from the previous season who preferred to take big pay cheques than play, then repair a dressing room hopelessly split between Warnock's players and the rich idiots recruited by Hughes, then had to build a team full of short term contract and loan players to get promoted. Warnock should never have been sacked in the first place after taking us up in the finest season I can remember for a very long time and Chris Ramsay shouldn't have been made permanent manager. This season's side was at least good enough reach the play offs if not better had we not started with a rookie manager.

                            Should we blame the managers....of course not, just the idiots running the club who have specialised in making one bad decision after another, burning an obscene £300M in the process.
                            You have some valid points about the players and the board etc, but Hughes tand even Warnock went out buying the players who unsettled the squad i.e. Barton Ferdinand.A. SWP Zamora Cisse in the 1st season back up. The following summer's spree was even worse.
                            The Board are guilty of sanctioning the signings, but the managers chose the players.
                            The Board are also guilty of appointing the wrong man as Chief Executive becase Beard was not a football man and was taken for a mug by agents.

                            All in all they are all too blame in some way for the 1st relegation.
                            Last season's was down to the Board as I think they made bad decisions throughout the season inculding not sacking Redkrapp early in the campaign, not signing Defoe in January and last but not least, appointing Ramsey to try and keep the club up!
                            This season, the Board again screwed up by giving the job to Ramsey and choosing not to even consider Warburton and finally, by not giving Warnock the job until the end of this season.
                            Now we have to hope that JFH has a long term plan and can take the club forward - but from what I have seen si far, I sm not convinced by him.
                            Last edited by stanistheman; 01-05-2016, 10:37 AM.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Mellowhoop View Post
                              Warnock from August would have had us playoffs.
                              Agree. MASSIVE pressure on JFH first 10 games of next season. Anything less than top 6 and he should go.NO EXCUSES!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by WE ARE QPR! View Post
                                Agree. MASSIVE pressure on JFH first 10 games of next season. Anything less than top 6 and he should go.NO EXCUSES!
                                Not wrong there, he needs to start signing players very fast in order to get the best out of pre-season. As you say if his not in the top 6 by 10 games he could be gone.

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