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  • Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
    How long does the permit usually last for a foreigner mate?
    There seems to be a big misunderstanding by the general public regarding immigrants working the UK.

    Any non-EU immigrant simply doesn't have any right whatsoever to work in the UK. To do so, the migrant worker needs to have a potential employer willing to be his or her "sponsor" in a work permit. The sponsorship process is quite complicated and involves requiring the employer to "prove" that his prospective migrant employee "can do a kind of job that no single individual in the EU can". Depending on the kind of job done by the migrant worker, there are different ways to "prove" it, but regarding football players it was agreed that it is directly related to the number of International call-ups a said player had in the previous years. Anyway, once the sponsorship is sorted either the employee or the employer acting in his name should apply for the work visa. This is the actual document that gets stamped on someone's passport, or as has been happening recently in the UK, issued as a plastic photocard.

    The thing is that each work permit and visa is directly linked to a specific employer. So, if the migrant worker changes jobs, as Sandro did, the new employer will have to apply for a new sponsorship and than ask for a new visa to be issued.

    Apparently, what happened is that QPR successfully sponsored Sandro but failed to apply for a new visa. This was either a case of the guys at QPR not knowing that it was required or of them thinking that Sandro would apply for the visa himself and Sandro thinking that the club would apply in his behalf. It is a bit tricky, because in Sandro's case for example, he would still had a visa photocard saying something like "valid until 2016" that became void the moment he ceased to be a Tottenham's employee. It is possible that everyone involved simply thought that the moment they have sorted the sponsorship part, his current visa would still be valid — which, as explained above, isn't the case.

    Either way it was a massive and unforgivable mix up from the club, but what i am trying to show you guys is that the club didn't "unknowingly signed an illegal immigrant" as some have implied here.

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    • See he's back with his hand in a cast

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      • Originally posted by West Acton View Post
        See he's back with his hand in a cast
        straight to the treatment room... check it out!

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        • I like sandro hope he plays alot
          R's

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          • Originally posted by klonk View Post
            straight to the treatment room... check it out!

            Looks exactly what he is. Insane

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            • Originally posted by heatwave View Post
              There seems to be a big misunderstanding by the general public regarding immigrants working the UK.

              Any non-EU immigrant simply doesn't have any right whatsoever to work in the UK. To do so, the migrant worker needs to have a potential employer willing to be his or her "sponsor" in a work permit. The sponsorship process is quite complicated and involves requiring the employer to "prove" that his prospective migrant employee "can do a kind of job that no single individual in the EU can". Depending on the kind of job done by the migrant worker, there are different ways to "prove" it, but regarding football players it was agreed that it is directly related to the number of International call-ups a said player had in the previous years. Anyway, once the sponsorship is sorted either the employee or the employer acting in his name should apply for the work visa. This is the actual document that gets stamped on someone's passport, or as has been happening recently in the UK, issued as a plastic photocard.

              The thing is that each work permit and visa is directly linked to a specific employer. So, if the migrant worker changes jobs, as Sandro did, the new employer will have to apply for a new sponsorship and than ask for a new visa to be issued.

              Apparently, what happened is that QPR successfully sponsored Sandro but failed to apply for a new visa. This was either a case of the guys at QPR not knowing that it was required or of them thinking that Sandro would apply for the visa himself and Sandro thinking that the club would apply in his behalf. It is a bit tricky, because in Sandro's case for example, he would still had a visa photocard saying something like "valid until 2016" that became void the moment he ceased to be a Tottenham's employee. It is possible that everyone involved simply thought that the moment they have sorted the sponsorship part, his current visa would still be valid — which, as explained above, isn't the case.

              Either way it was a massive and unforgivable mix up from the club, but what i am trying to show you guys is that the club didn't "unknowingly signed an illegal immigrant" as some have implied here.
              Very informative. Thank you!

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              • AC Milan are interested apparently.
                http://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/q...ed-by-ac-milan
                Last edited by Kevin Mcleod; 31-08-2015, 12:00 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
                  AC Milan are interested apparently.
                  Did seem more than coincidence that everything fell into place just as the transfer window comes to a head.

                  Ramsey has sounded a bit negative about him and maybe the Watford guy is his replacement.

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                  • Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
                    Did seem more than coincidence that everything fell into place just as the transfer window comes to a head.

                    Ramsey has sounded a bit negative about him and maybe the Watford guy is his replacement.
                    Personally I'd love to see him go. With his injury record he's a luxury that we could live without. Better to have him off the wage bill!

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                    • Tozser is cover/ competition for Faurlin, I would like him to stay but a loan would a,so make sense.
                      Kept the faith!

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                      • Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
                        Did seem more than coincidence that everything fell into place just as the transfer window comes to a head.

                        Ramsey has sounded a bit negative about him and maybe the Watford guy is his replacement.
                        Wasnt there issues between Sandro and Ramsey when they were at Spurs? Could well be wrong but sure that was the case.
                        SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                        • Not as far as I know but with Sherwood.
                          Kept the faith!

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                          • Originally posted by californiahoop View Post
                            Not as far as I know but with Sherwood.
                            Oh yeah thats the 1 mate!!
                            SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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                            • Let him go on loan with a £2/3m loan fee - like we did with Caulker. Gives us a fee, his wages off the bill, and if he performs he might get a decent move next year. Can't see him wanting to play at Brentford away on a Friday might, get rid and he'll get in some defensive reinforcements!

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                              • He has never said he didn't want to play for us?
                                Kept the faith!

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