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  • Positive reasons to be hopeful....

    Completely gutted to lose that match as we should have won and taken our chances in the first half, however, there is a hell of a lot we can take from the performance, unlike most of our previous games.

    Positives:

    Desire - we hunted and pressed the opposition making it difficult for them on the ball. This has been sorely non existent in recent games so massive improvement.
    Cutting egde - We created good chances and should've been 3-0 up at HT. I think we all knew missing them would cost us.
    Zamora - This was the Zamora from his Fulham days. He was immense and looks a completley new player now over his op last year.
    Yun - FINALLY Harry started him and he proved why he shouldve been playing long before now. The kid is good defensively and great on the break. He was excellent and when you factor for the first half he was directly up against Sterling, that is some performance.
    Selection and Tactics - FINALLY Harry played 2 up top and a team with a bit of fight and nouse and they for once seemed to know their jobs and carried them out.
    Henry - Massive respect to him this season. He has really grown as a performer and was again superb doing the job he's there to do. Hugely unsung hero type performamance. Some think he shouldv'e taken out Sterling on that final attack, but it would've been a 2nd yellow and red, which if it happened i'm sure he'd have been slated also.
    Vargas - Fantastic cameo, got his goals and now off and running. Watch this space i think. That first goal had all the attributes of a goalscorer. Good skill out wide and ball in, but didnt stand and admire what he'd done, he bolted it into the 6 yard box and finished in style.
    Isla - Great game for me in both midfield and FB. Much improved and will grow from this im sure.
    Onouha - Starting to prove his worth with another strong performance.
    Midfield - The 3 in the middle really bossed and bullied Liverpool and all played well doing that job.
    McCarthy - Looked very accomplished, composed and very solid. Great save from Lallana in second half with little chance to react, commanded his box. Would prefer to Green personally.


    Concerns:

    Finishing was abysmal in the first half. Fer and Austin should've scored without question. In general this season, our shooting has been awful... needs work.
    Charlie - He seems to be a bit one dimensional, single speed and a little lost at this level for me. He lacks that explosive movement strkers often need and for me when he then gets chances he panicks and or rushes them as a result, ultimately messing them up. That one he bundled through yesterday why oh why take that extra touch... No surprise the 2 chances he's converted this season were very instinctive and had little time to think about the chance to then mess it up.
    Phillps - Serioously lacking confidence after early season missed sitters. needs to get back to doing what he does best, skinning the FB and whipping balls in.
    CB's - They were very solid but then let themselves down as couldnt sort their feet for the OG's.... very very poor. Dunne especially was clumsy beyond belief.
    Concentration - Liverpools first goal was a shocker with half our players not paying attention. Teams like Liverpool dont need an invitation
    Harry - Will he have the strength of character to stick with the majority of these players or will he bring back favourites when fit.
    Injuries - What is going on with our army of coaches that we continually have players break down with injuries... .it cant be a coincidence. Sort it out ffs!
    Adel - My concern is not so much Adel being overweight directly, but the fact Harry comments about a player being so unfit but happy to get his £60/70k a week..... How is this allowed to happen?? Put him on a specific firness programme and if he doesnt follow it, fine him 2 weeks wages. Continue this as long as it persists. If he;s not doing the graft he's expected to then dont pay the ####er. And if he's at training, why the hell arent they working him hard enough. Its a farce. We all know he's naturally lazy, and if you let him be lazy he will be. Work the player!


    Overall, to give that performance against such a strong team in Liverpool really fills me with optimisim for the rest of the season, but Harry needs to learn from this. WE need to attack teams becasue our defence is not good enough and lacks the concentration to site back and hope for a shut out, it wont happen.

    My other main concern is we may do ok against Villa, but then we have 2 guranteed defeats for me, so the confidence will take a massive hit once again.
    Last edited by Del; 20-10-2014, 10:58 AM.

  • #2
    Your title is tautological....... But I agree with pretty much all of it.

    Anyways. Lets have a song on a Monday morning:

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    • #3
      Agree with most of that, especially the finishing first half part .
      Do we stick with that exact same starting eleven for villa of they are all available? I think yes.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
        Agree with most of that, especially the finishing first half part .
        Do we stick with that exact same starting eleven for villa of they are all available? I think yes.
        So do I. Hopefully Harry does too. We've also got an extra couple of days.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
          Agree with most of that, especially the finishing first half part .
          Do we stick with that exact same starting eleven for villa of they are all available? I think yes.
          If fit i think he needs to persevere for sure. Only potential change would be Vargas for Charlie, however, i think for now leave as is because he is still settling in and can have big impact from the bench as we saw, which i doubt Charlie would.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by maverick69 View Post
            Your title is tautological....... But I agree with pretty much all of it.
            You can't beat a bit of tautology on a Monday morning! Highbrowtastic post.

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            • #7
              I agree with most of that too. especially the Taarabt part.

              If he isn't fit then he needs to be worked on extra hard by the coaches. and if he doesn't train he should be fined 2 weeks wages for each week he doesn't train properly - he will soon be paying QPR instead of the other way round!

              I think that Austin is doing ok, yes he could and should have had more goals this season, but it would help his confidence a lot more if the defence was not leaking goals as this puts more pressure on him and others to take their chances which sometimes leads to panicked rushed finishes or taking that extra touch to try and be sure.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by stanistheman View Post
                I agree with most of that too. especially the Taarabt part.

                If he isn't fit then he needs to be worked on extra hard by the coaches. and if he doesn't train he should be fined 2 weeks wages for each week he doesn't train properly - he will soon be paying QPR instead of the other way round!

                I think that Austin is doing ok, yes he could and should have had more goals this season, but it would help his confidence a lot more if the defence was not leaking goals as this puts more pressure on him and others to take their chances which sometimes leads to panicked rushed finishes or taking that extra touch to try and be sure.
                Yeah, my issue with the whole Taraabt piece is there's no accountability from the army of staff on the payroll whose job it is to get the players fit, as a collective and by special requirements if needed. The coaches, and managment have failed big time by letting it get to this. They need to look at themselves as much as Taraabt. He'll always be a bit lazy if you let him, so dont let him, or dont pay him if he is.

                Good point ref Austin, he is clearly feeling the pressure which cant be helped knowing we are squad light when it comes to strikers to start with and the dfence will leak.

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                • #9
                  Agree with del-good post mate.
                  PRIDE OF LONDON.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Del View Post
                    Yeah, my issue with the whole Taraabt piece is there's no accountability from the army of staff on the payroll whose job it is to get the players fit, as a collective and by special requirements if needed. The coaches, and managment have failed big time by letting it get to this. They need to look at themselves as much as Taraabt. He'll always be a bit lazy if you let him, so dont let him, or dont pay him if he is.

                    Good point ref Austin, he is clearly feeling the pressure which cant be helped knowing we are squad light when it comes to strikers to start with and the dfence will leak.
                    true, Redknapp, Jordon, Bond et al need to take a big portion of blame for Taarabt's lack of fitness.

                    And if they have been too busy with the other players, they could have hired a personal trainer to work with Taarabt for a month in order to get him fit.Hopefully they will do something now to make sure he can play a part in November & December (not much chance of him going to the African Cup of Nations in his current condition so that should at least give him an incentive).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by stanistheman View Post
                      true, Redknapp, Jordon, Bond et al need to take a big portion of blame for Taarabt's lack of fitness.

                      And if they have been too busy with the other players, they could have hired a personal trainer to work with Taarabt for a month in order to get him fit.Hopefully they will do something now to make sure he can play a part in November & December (not much chance of him going to the African Cup of Nations in his current condition so that should at least give him an incentive).
                      I blew a lot on vodka and tonic, gambling and fags. Looking back, I think I overdid it on the tonic. - The one and only Stanley Bowles

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                      • #12
                        Got a lazy player with a terrible attitude who wont train properly and eats too much and spends all his time at the shisha bars on the edgeware road?
                        Well thats the managers fault, he should of got him one on one training with his own specialist and dietician and babysitter.
                        Ha ha ha ha ha. Laughable stuff lads.

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                        • #13
                          How bad does it need to get for ALL QPR fans to finally believe this is ADELS FAULT.

                          He DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR QPR.

                          He doesn't want to get fit and put the yards in.. What are the fitnesss staff meant to do if he turns round and says 'im not doing it' 'I cant do it'
                          What are the other players meant to think if they see him reacting like that?

                          Stop defending him over and over.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
                            Got a lazy player with a terrible attitude who wont train properly and eats too much and spends all his time at the shisha bars on the edgeware road?
                            Well thats the managers fault, he should of got him one on one training with his own specialist and dietician and babysitter.
                            Ha ha ha ha ha. Laughable stuff lads.
                            You clealry miss the point. Nobody is disputing it's Adel who is fundamentally at fault for having the wrong attitude and a lack of application of a preffessional footballer. HOWEVER, there are other people on the payroll of QPR to do their own jobs and they are failing equally. It's not the likes of Bond / Jordan as such, but there are fitness coaches in the mix.

                            If he's not cutting the mustard then the powers than be should be acting on it and doing something about him, not just letting it happen and continuing to pay the waster. What incentive is there for him to change his ways if they just carry on paying him regardless.....??

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by West London is Rss View Post
                              How bad does it need to get for ALL QPR fans to finally believe this is ADELS FAULT.

                              He DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR QPR.

                              He doesn't want to get fit and put the yards in.. What are the fitnesss staff meant to do if he turns round and says 'im not doing it' 'I cant do it'
                              What are the other players meant to think if they see him reacting like that?

                              Stop defending him over and over.
                              See my above post. Im not defending Adel at all. Just highlighting others should either force the issue or stop paying him his inflated wage by issuing 2 week wage fines. IF you keep letting a player like that do nothing and then pay him £60k a week, he'll just go out and buy a load of kebabs.

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