Mo

[will]

I have near neighbours who have 7 kids between them and who have never done a days work in their lives and claim they are on disability,him for his back and her for mental issues!!

Does not stop him humping tv`s and computers in their two year old car though and her selling them at car boot sales etc

In fact they have a cracking life what with not paying any rent or council tax and despite just having the council paint their house inside and out just after getting a spanking new kitcken and bathroom to update the old ones they are now getting new insulation incase they get a little nippy this winter

Not the case in the summer months for them though as when I return home from a hard days graft they are usually to be found sunbathing in the garden

Oh and before anyone gets their knickers in a twist they are both white English and just the kind of people New Labour courted so closely as they could always rely on theirs and thousands like them for their votes as long as the state looked after them

I was with you until that bit.

The welfare state has existed for 60 years, and seen many changes of government. Systemic abuse like the examples you give pre-date New Labour, as well you know. Don't know how old you are but people used to complain about welfare being a "lifestyle choice" when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, and for three quarters of that period we had a Tory government. As for abuse of the disability living allowance this non-means tested benefit was introduced by the Conservative administration in 1992. Its predecessor (can't recall what it was called now) was hugely promoted by Thatcher as it allowed them to 'reassign' the unemployed, thus taking them out of the jobless figures. Unfortunately it has now become a permanent meal ticket.

Hope that helps.

[acricketer]

And this all started from the thread title 'Mo'. C'mon URssssssssssssss!

[willis1980]

You are correct about Mo Farah's father. He was born in the UK. Just like Kevin Peitersen, Jonathan Trott and Andrew Strauss in cricket who were all born in South Africa, but again white skin, so that makes it ok.

While i completely agree with the point that youre trying to make Nobby, I disagree about the fact that KP, Trott, Prior, Strauss et al are accepted due to the fact that they are white. The point that they are South african born is always mentioned by the media, which is weird considering newspaper articles about boris johnson dont refer to him a "american born" politican. The cricketers in question are often singled out as possessing a different mentality, style etc due to the fact that they are born abroad (even though strauss moved here when he was 4 i think, and prior when he was 7?). Many supporters even make it clear that they do not feel that these players are not "one of them," Ive witnessed england supporters clap when trott gets bowled out for example. Whereas anyone one i have spoken to about Mo has fully embraced him, all you have to do is listen to how he holds himself to see that hes british (starting his statement with "listen mate" says it all really). Ive always maintained that if a dog is born in barn that doesnt make it a horse, some peole are just ignorant Im afraid.

[Geezum Crowe]

i think we should have something similar.its perverse that cigarettes and alcohol can be purchased with income support.it should go soley on necessities and that would help stop children going hungry to the hands of neglectful parents.anyway aint going to happen as our welfare set-up is both the best and worst in the world,bit of an oxy***** but true i think.

What boggles my mind is the fact that around where I live (Holloway) all the unemployed single mums feed themselves & their kids entirely on takeaways. Every day.

Even if the takeways are cheap , that must still cost a fortune. But none of them can be arsed to cook.

[Brooksie]

Anyway back to MO, what a performance and here's hoping he can be inspiration to all espically he's fellow Somalians in the UK.

[hal9thou]

I was a cynic about the corporate olympics, and once you've waded through the hype and bluster there are questions which need to be asked by bodies like the IOC (and dear old FIFA) of themselves. But I was screaming for Mo, the fact that he has a Somali background made it even better because that in itself is a powerful statement about the way we are now, a vision of how things could work in a new Britain...

I love it when people get so het up about immigration. Immigration stemmed from colonial expansion, in both classical times and 18th century Britain. You reap what you sow, and guess what - it might just be a wonderful thing. You can not put the clock back so get used to it and just maybe this could be a rainbow nation that works. That was what I got from it.

[lymehoop]

I was a cynic about the corporate olympics, and once you've waded through the hype and bluster there are questions which need to be asked by bodies like the IOC (and dear old FIFA) of themselves. But I was screaming for Mo, the fact that he has a Somali background made it even better because that in itself is a powerful statement about the way we are now, a vision of how things could work in a new Britain...

I love it when people get so het up about immigration. Immigration stemmed from colonial expansion, in both classical times and 18th century Britain. You reap what you sow, and guess what - it might just be a wonderful thing. You can not put the clock back so get used to it and just maybe this could be a rainbow nation that works. That was what I got from it.

that old cheshnut, wonder if the Irish, Swedes, Norwegians and Finns are scratching their heads wondering who they colonised to have so many of our African cousins

[SANDERSON8]

I agree with vblock and facto........nobby for primeminister he will go a long way.

[SANDERSON8]

I was with you until that bit.

The welfare state has existed for 60 years, and seen many changes of government. Systemic abuse like the examples you give pre-date New Labour, as well you know. Don't know how old you are but people used to complain about welfare being a "lifestyle choice" when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, and for three quarters of that period we had a Tory government. As for abuse of the disability living allowance this non-means tested benefit was introduced by the Conservative administration in 1992. Its predecessor (can't recall what it was called now) was hugely promoted by Thatcher as it allowed them to 'reassign' the unemployed, thus taking them out of the jobless figures. Unfortunately it has now become a permanent meal ticket.

Hope that helps.

Worked for 42 years ****ing hardbecome ill through family tragedy,benn arrested by old bill many times,end up in a mental health unit where i am beaten up by the staff more like torture all
of them non white guess what?
NOW unemployed no hope of a job,what help from government authority none zeRO.NHS close ranks and deny all of this took place sickness benefit refused and some think this country is fine,nothing wrong with the country
just the aresholes that have been supposed to have been running it for years.........and before anyone decides to have a pop paid myaxes and stamp in full.

[QPR71]

yes happens every time labour are in power...the labour treasury minister left a note for the incoming coalition minister saying "there is no money left"...that is too tragic to be funny
cos now we got years of sh*t to come, just likeevery other time....btw we went into major debt, lost the empire, lost the pound as the international currency due to the war,,
shame our forces couldnt hold dunkirk....maybe the 1930's labour policy of unilateral disarmament whilst germany was building forces had something to do with that.

now the needy have to pay , because the undeserving took the dough, given away by those ever so social labour tw*ts

[twranger]

Worked for 42 years ****ing hardbecome ill through family tragedy,benn arrested by old bill many times,end up in a mental health unit where i am beaten up by the staff more like torture all
of them non white guess what?
NOW unemployed no hope of a job,what help from government authority none zeRO.NHS close ranks and deny all of this took place sickness benefit refused and some think this country is fine,nothing wrong with the country
just the aresholes that have been supposed to have been running it for years.........and before anyone decides to have a pop paid myaxes and stamp in full.

and these axes...are these the ones you are grinding?

[SpankwiR]

Mo is a top bloke and 1 thing that Feltham has to be proud of

Go mo

Errrr someone's forgotten about Nandos, Freddie Mercury and the 40 acre tunnel.

[Gtleighsr3]

Mo Molan done well double olympic champ,she was a fat bald white bird the other year.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

yes happens every time labour are in power...the labour treasury minister left a note for the incoming coalition minister saying "there is no money left"...that is too tragic to be funny
cos now we got years of sh*t to come, just likeevery other time....btw we went into major debt, lost the empire, lost the pound as the international currency due to the war,,
shame our forces couldnt hold dunkirk....maybe the 1930's labour policy of unilateral disarmament whilst germany was building forces had something to do with that.

now the needy have to pay , because the undeserving took the dough, given away by those ever so social labour tw*ts

Rubbish.

[QPR71]

Rubbish.

how so? love to see you point to the bit thats wrong...know in advance you cant cos it all happened...every bit historical fact im afraid
should be easy if its rubbish!!