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Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
Yeah unlike big gob big head f**kin know it all, now #### off you total ####in ######## and take clapped out wiv ya
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Originally posted by Johnnykc View Post
I totally agree with James Mcleans decision not to wear a poppy.....
People who take umbrage with it and call him out on it are stupid.
But it doesn't warrant any investigation.
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Originally posted by Clapton is God View Post
Nah, I do have an opinion on it and I know plenty about the History of the Troubles coming from an Irish Catholic family and being once married to an Ulster Protestant whose family included staunch Orangemen.
My opinion is that if I was born in Derry and had knowledge of the British Army atrocities I would probably either support or join the IRA.
If I was born in East Belfast and perceived the IRA as a threat to my people and the Republic insisting claim to the 6 counties I would probably either support or join the UDA.
If I lived in England and had no knowledge of what the Army were doing in our name in Northern Ireland but saw soilders killed by the IRA I would unconditionally support the Army and the UDA.
What changed everything, however was sitting down together and listening to what the other side had to say. In the end Martin McGuiness and Ian Paisley became friends who had dinner at each other's house because they spoke and listened to people who had a different story to tell.
So it isn't twaddle. It's a statement of truth and it is, contrary to what you say, a complex situation.
Maybe if the ignorant idiots condemning McClean took the same approach they wouldn't be so bitter and angry and they may find themselves called idiots less often.
You won't last long on this forum!
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Originally posted by Norths View PostFans caught on camera asking James McClean “wheres your poppy?"
Now ignoring getting into the debate whether someone should or shouldn't wear the poppy, is this really 'abuse' that is deserving of an investigation? I'm sure we all hear far worse said in stadiums every week.
James Mclean should have just told the thick #### to #### off......
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Originally posted by Tarbie
He's welcome at the other forum mate. Decent poster.
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Originally posted by Tarbie
He's welcome at the other forum mate. Decent poster.
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Originally posted by Joe90 View Post
I don't disagree with you about understanding why someone feels the way they do and I know already the things you're saying, but as I've said before and will say again, to hear ones views does not mean you will agree or accept them. You hide behind this concept, this 'truism' of 'understanding' and 'reconciliation' and a pseudo enlightenment approach but offer up a facile opinion that is essentially a process and not really an opinion. You also completely miss quote me!
Will also add, I don't think you're wrong as such, and your point of view does no harm, but I still don't have a problem with the so called 'abuse' McClean has received and as I said before, has it crossed a line yet? I don't think so.
Well have to agree to disagree on a few points both you and I make but that's life!
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Originally posted by Clapton is God View Post
Nah, I do have an opinion on it and I know plenty about the History of the Troubles coming from an Irish Catholic family and being once married to an Ulster Protestant whose family included staunch Orangemen.
My opinion is that if I was born in Derry and had knowledge of the British Army atrocities I would probably either support or join the IRA.
If I was born in East Belfast and perceived the IRA as a threat to my people and the Republic insisting claim to the 6 counties I would probably either support or join the UDA.
If I lived in England and had no knowledge of what the Army were doing in our name in Northern Ireland but saw soilders killed by the IRA I would unconditionally support the Army and the UDA.
What changed everything, however was sitting down together and listening to what the other side had to say. In the end Martin McGuiness and Ian Paisley became friends who had dinner at each other's house because they spoke and listened to people who had a different story to tell.
So it isn't twaddle. It's a statement of truth and it is, contrary to what you say, a complex situation.
Maybe if the ignorant idiots condemning McClean took the same approach they wouldn't be so bitter and angry and they may find themselves called idiots less often.
Will also add, I don't think you're wrong as such, and your point of view does no harm, but I still don't have a problem with the so called 'abuse' McClean has received and as I said before, has it crossed a line yet? I don't think so.
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