Donald Trump. Leg End or Bell End?

[Kevin Mcleod]

Could be that.

But Trumpy is taking credit for alot of Obama's work, JFH benefited from Eddie Howe's work at Burton......not saying that's the case here, but for example whoever follows Ollie, if he does well he'll benefit from some of the work Ollie has done,and take credit for it no doubt.

Trump taking credit for Barrys work.
I love the left i really do.

[1QPRDK]

The thing is Lymes, Brexit doesn't mean that all of the Eastern Europeans are going home. It will stem the flow of new ones coming in for sure. They will have to apply for a visa just like anyone from outside of the EU does now. But even if we end up with a Hard Brexit, it is very unlikely that anyone who is living and working in the country already will be sent home.

As for Mogg, and putting personal political persuasions and thoughts on Brexit to one side, do you think it's right that a guy who stands to gain so much financially from exiting the EU should be campaigning for it as a politician? On a broader note, is it right that any person should be allowed to use politics to enhance their own personal business interests, whether it be inadvertent or intentional?

I think that is more or less, what is expected of people in standard economic theory. For most economists the problems begin to arise, when it turns out that people donīt do what is expected of them all the time.

[Tarbie]

at least I agree with your last sentence. Down in Cornwall the old bill have raided a farm where migrant workers have been abused by their Eastern European paymasters. Just maybe, Mogg like a lot of us, don't believe in all the hype that comes with being in the EU

The thing is Lymes, Brexit doesn't mean that all of the Eastern Europeans are going home. It will stem the flow of new ones coming in for sure. They will have to apply for a visa just like anyone from outside of the EU does now. But even if we end up with a Hard Brexit, it is very unlikely that anyone who is living and working in the country already will be sent home.

As for Mogg, and putting personal political persuasions and thoughts on Brexit to one side, do you think it's right that a guy who stands to gain so much financially from exiting the EU should be campaigning for it as a politician? On a broader note, is it right that any person should be allowed to use politics to enhance their own personal business interests, whether it be inadvertent or intentional?

[Hubble]

This is good on the Trump, likening the machinations of the previous incumbents in the Whitehouse and what is happening now to Game of Thrones; an excellent analogy.

"Like Hercule Poirot, the ace detective in Agatha Christie’s mystery “Death on the Nile,” Donald Trump quickly grasped that the widespread conspiracy against his presidency was far more than random campaign felonies by political hacks.Not lost in the weeds like obstructionists, candidate Trump must have suspected senior elements within the IRS, FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ) would fear his candidacy more than any other.

Hillary Clinton, for certain, would never unpack the sordid history of scandals missed and covered up back to 1993, or even earlier — she was the “insurance policy” for the swamp.
So an investigation into her manifest mishandling of classified information on her private email server was bottled up, the primaries were rigged in her favor, and it was full speed ahead to the White House — until that did not happen, thanks to millions of forgotten men and women who made their votes count.
For those expecting an historic first Madam President and second President Clinton, events at polling places on Nov. 8, 2016, ushered in an unthinkable living hell.

Stopping the not-so-quiet coup. Early on Nov. 9, 2016, President-elect Trump likely understood that numerous suspects would plot against him, including some individuals he once might have thought were true allies.
So, a political “neophyte” (as if!) seems to have laid traps, even nominating Rod Rosenstein to take the powerful position of deputy attorney general, standing down as Rosenstein selected his mentor, Robert Mueller, to serve as special counsel investigating “Russian collusion,” even as Mueller packed his team with openly biased partisans.
Fortunately for Trump and unfortunately for his enemies, there are records and now the general public is coming to study these closely, even as Democrats and blinkered media elites refuse to see the obvious.
Now that appetizers are served — the Nunes memo and Democratic countermemo are mere morsels — Americans deserve to read as much as possible of Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s forthcoming report, so that all who choose to think for themselves can understand just how profoundly America’s justice system has been corrupted since 1992.

As Congress and the new digital media now do jobs abandoned by the formerly intrepid investigative journalists with mainstream outfits, Americans and the global audience are about to look behind the curtain into a real-life “Game of Thrones.”

Read the full article here: https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/trump-draining-swamp-real-life-game-thrones/

[lymehoop]

The same Mogg who's company Somerset Capital is due to profit to the tune of 10's of millions from Brexit? Call me a cynic, but I can't think for a second why he is so pro Brexit. But I suppose that is what Conservative politics are about these days. The elite ensuring that they stay elite!

Also a guy that lets his religious ideology interfere with his political standpoint. Something which I'm fundamentally opposed to. Religion has absolutely no place in politics.

Wasting my breath here I suspect though.

at least I agree with your last sentence. Down in Cornwall the old bill have raided a farm where migrant workers have been abused by their Eastern European paymasters. Just maybe, Mogg like a lot of us, don't believe in all the hype that comes with being in the EU

[Tarbie]

My opinion of Mogg is pretty clear in my previous quote. The use of the word caricature is the most poignant

Sorry mate, missed the satire in your post!

[Hove Ranger]

The same Mogg who's company Somerset Capital is due to profit to the tune of 10's of millions from Brexit? Call me a cynic, but I can't think for a second why he is so pro Brexit. But I suppose that is what Conservative politics are about these days. The elite ensuring that they stay elite!

Also a guy that lets his religious ideology interfere with his political standpoint. Something which I'm fundamentally opposed to. Religion has absolutely no place in politics.

Wasting my breath here I suspect though.

My opinion of Mogg is pretty clear in my previous quote. The use of the word caricature is the most poignant

[brightonr]

"If they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Margaret Thatcher

Well, I could have posted the response from Kean Birch, but thought it would bore the pants of those wanting to read a football forum.

Still, have a read if you want:

https://antipodefoundation.org/2015/...-christophers/

[Hubble]

#Pray for Hubble

https://youtu.be/gcN2hJq1OZ0

"If they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Margaret Thatcher

[brightonr]

#Pray for Hubble

https://youtu.be/gcN2hJq1OZ0

[Fraggy]

Fragg, to you and any of other ex pats believing its all doom and gloom here. It really isnt.
Thats just Project Tarbie. Sorry i mean Project Fear.

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/...0%7Ctwterm%5E2

No fear Kev, no matter what I will always love England and will always be English.
In reference to the doom and gloom threads, fortunately, if it is not football related, I tend to glaze over reading threads that are more than one paragraph

[Kevin Mcleod]

Fragg, to you and any of other ex pats believing its all doom and gloom here. It really isnt.
Thats just Project Tarbie. Sorry i mean Project Fear.

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/...0%7Ctwterm%5E2

[Tarbie]

Backed mogg a while ago at 10s to be next PM. The perfect caricature of a British PM. Similar to trump in US. Indicative of what politics is

The same Mogg who's company Somerset Capital is due to profit to the tune of 10's of millions from Brexit? Call me a cynic, but I can't think for a second why he is so pro Brexit. But I suppose that is what Conservative politics are about these days. The elite ensuring that they stay elite!

Also a guy that lets his religious ideology interfere with his political standpoint. Something which I'm fundamentally opposed to. Religion has absolutely no place in politics.

Wasting my breath here I suspect though.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Backed mogg a while ago at 10s to be next PM. The perfect caricature of a British PM. Similar to trump in US. Indicative of what politics is

Hes the bookies favourite now mucker.,

[Hove Ranger]

Hes so right eh Blue mate.
Think we need the Moog in charge to get anything remotely close to what Farage speaks of though.

Backed mogg a while ago at 10s to be next PM. The perfect caricature of a British PM. Similar to trump in US. Indicative of what politics is