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  • #76
    Oh and apologies in advance Tarbs, i aint doing this to wind you up i swear.
    This one minute speech on Brexit from the British legend was just ohhhhhh for me.

    https://amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...love-actually/

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    • #77
      Love that Kev - that could almost be May's moment, like the one where the Falklands conflict changed Thatcher's tenure forever
      #standuptocancer
      #inyourfacecancer

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Bluehoop View Post
        Love that Kev - that could almost be May's moment, like the one where the Falklands conflict changed Thatcher's tenure forever
        Hes so right eh Blue mate.
        Think we need the Moog in charge to get anything remotely close to what Farage speaks of though.

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        • #79
          Going back to Thatcher - because I know you'd all love to - this is from an article that absolutely epitomises my objections to privatisation and Thatcherism. It's about the massive sell off of publicly owned land that started under her tenure, and has a direct impact on the lack of housing today, and so much more:

          Read it and weep, fellow British citizens:


          Over the past 12 months, the issue of privatisation has surged back into the news and the public consciousness in Britain. Driven by mounting concerns about profiteering and mismanagement at privatised enterprises, Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party has made the renationalisation of key utilities and the railways a central plank of its agenda for a future Labour administration. And then, of course, there is Carillion, a stark, rotting symbol of everything that has gone wrong with the privatisation of local public services, and which has prompted Corbyn’s recent call for a rebirth of municipal socialism.

          Yet in all the proliferating discussion about the rights and wrongs of the history of privatisation in Britain – both from those determined to row back against the neoliberal tide and those convinced that renationalisation is the wrong answer – Britain’s biggest privatisation of all never merits a mention. This is partly because so few people are aware that it has even taken place, and partly because it has never been properly studied. What is this mega-privatisation? The privatisation of land.

          Some activists have hinted at it. Last October, for instance, the New Economics Foundation (NEF), a progressive thinktank, called in this newspaper for the government to stop selling public land. But the NEF’s is solely a present-day story, picturing land privatisation as a new phenomenon. It gives no sense of the fact that this has been occurring on a massive scale for fully 39 years, since the day that Margaret Thatcher entered Downing Street. During that period, all types of public land have been targeted, held by local and central government alike. And while disposals have generally been heaviest under Tory and Tory-led administrations, they definitely did not abate under New Labour; indeed the NHS estate, in particular, was ravaged during the Blair years.
          All told, around 2 million hectares of public land have been privatised during the past four decades. This amounts to an eye-watering 10% of the entire British land mass, and about half of all the land that was owned by public bodies when Thatcher assumed power. How much is the land that has been privatised in Britain worth? It is impossible to say for sure. But my conservative estimate, explained in my forthcoming book on this historic privatisation, called The New Enclosure, is somewhere in the region of £400bn in today’s prices. This dwarfs the value of all of Britain’s other, better known, and often bitterly contested, privatisations.

          The article goes on to say:

          It is difficult to overstate the significance of this colossal land privatisation, and the manifold damages to the social and economic fabric of the nation that have been caused. Those damages are apparent especially in relation to the other issue currently on everyone’s minds in Britain alongside privatisation – housing, and the nation’s acute housing crisis. Selling public land to private-sector developers, who have long been the biggest buyers of government land, was supposed to have helped alleviate Britain’s housing problems, but it has done nothing of the sort.

          Full article:
          https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/08/biggest-privatisation-land-margaret-thatcher-britain-housing-crisis?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


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          • #80
            Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
            Hes so right eh Blue mate.
            Think we need the Moog in charge to get anything remotely close to what Farage speaks of though.
            Backed mogg a while ago at 10s to be next PM. The perfect caricature of a British PM. Similar to trump in US. Indicative of what politics is

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Hove Ranger View Post
              Backed mogg a while ago at 10s to be next PM. The perfect caricature of a British PM. Similar to trump in US. Indicative of what politics is
              Hes the bookies favourite now mucker.,

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Hove Ranger View Post
                Backed mogg a while ago at 10s to be next PM. The perfect caricature of a British PM. Similar to trump in US. Indicative of what politics is
                The same Mogg who's company Somerset Capital is due to profit to the tune of 10's of millions from Brexit? Call me a cynic, but I can't think for a second why he is so pro Brexit. But I suppose that is what Conservative politics are about these days. The elite ensuring that they stay elite!

                Also a guy that lets his religious ideology interfere with his political standpoint. Something which I'm fundamentally opposed to. Religion has absolutely no place in politics.

                Wasting my breath here I suspect though.

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                • #83
                  Fragg, to you and any of other ex pats believing its all doom and gloom here. It really isnt.
                  Thats just Project Tarbie. Sorry i mean Project Fear.

                  https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/...0%7Ctwterm%5E2

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View Post
                    Fragg, to you and any of other ex pats believing its all doom and gloom here. It really isnt.
                    Thats just Project Tarbie. Sorry i mean Project Fear.

                    https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/...0%7Ctwterm%5E2
                    No fear Kev, no matter what I will always love England and will always be English.
                    In reference to the doom and gloom threads, fortunately, if it is not football related, I tend to glaze over reading threads that are more than one paragraph
                    Minds Are Like Parachutes.
                    Work Best When Open...
                    @Nowt2SeeHere

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                    • #85
                      #Pray for Hubble

                      https://youtu.be/gcN2hJq1OZ0

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by brightonr View Post
                        "If they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Margaret Thatcher

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                        • #87
                          Well, I could have posted the response from Kean Birch, but thought it would bore the pants of those wanting to read a football forum.

                          Still, have a read if you want:

                          https://antipodefoundation.org/2015/...-christophers/

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Tarbie View Post
                            The same Mogg who's company Somerset Capital is due to profit to the tune of 10's of millions from Brexit? Call me a cynic, but I can't think for a second why he is so pro Brexit. But I suppose that is what Conservative politics are about these days. The elite ensuring that they stay elite!

                            Also a guy that lets his religious ideology interfere with his political standpoint. Something which I'm fundamentally opposed to. Religion has absolutely no place in politics.

                            Wasting my breath here I suspect though.
                            My opinion of Mogg is pretty clear in my previous quote. The use of the word caricature is the most poignant

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Hove Ranger View Post
                              My opinion of Mogg is pretty clear in my previous quote. The use of the word caricature is the most poignant
                              Sorry mate, missed the satire in your post!

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Tarbie View Post
                                The same Mogg who's company Somerset Capital is due to profit to the tune of 10's of millions from Brexit? Call me a cynic, but I can't think for a second why he is so pro Brexit. But I suppose that is what Conservative politics are about these days. The elite ensuring that they stay elite!

                                Also a guy that lets his religious ideology interfere with his political standpoint. Something which I'm fundamentally opposed to. Religion has absolutely no place in politics.

                                Wasting my breath here I suspect though.
                                at least I agree with your last sentence. Down in Cornwall the old bill have raided a farm where migrant workers have been abused by their Eastern European paymasters. Just maybe, Mogg like a lot of us, don't believe in all the hype that comes with being in the EU
                                I must away now, I can no longer tarry
                                This morning's tempest I have to cross
                                I must be guided without a stumble
                                Into the arms I love the most

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