Style of play

[SheepRanger]

You could well be right, but at the time fans hadn't seen Leisner, and many still held Nedum in high regard, possibly for his previous endeavours.

Hmmm. I seem to remember the majority calling out a mistake a game. I never felt comfortable when he had the ball at his feet, and was glad when he moved the ball on. Always seemed pretty static and immobile to me. An average championship player and now hitting the heights of Salt Lake City...I wasnt too disappointed to see him move on

[Undecided]

I cant say the chief was any better than Leisner. Seem pretty similar to me and cheaper.

You could well be right, but at the time fans hadn't seen Leisner, and many still held Nedum in high regard, possibly for his previous endeavours.

[jamesnutt]

barbet good on ball but gives away a pen/ makes an error leading directly to a goal every game. JN

[Shepherds Mush]

I cant say the chief was any better than Leisner. Seem pretty similar to me and cheaper.

Ned had a good partnership with Dunne but as an individual CB, I'd take the BFG over Onuha every time.

[SheepRanger]

Perhaps you should have persevered, there was a lot of sense in the rest of the post. Also, I recall a great outpouring of grief amongst many when Nedum was let go, but then my memory isn't what it was once.

I cant say the chief was any better than Leisner. Seem pretty similar to me and cheaper.

[Undecided]

Gave up at the bit where you rated nedum. Shows a lack of footballing knowledge unfortunately

Perhaps you should have persevered, there was a lot of sense in the rest of the post. Also, I recall a great outpouring of grief amongst many when Nedum was let go, but then my memory isn't what it was once.

[FurtiveFox]

Gave up at the bit where you rated nedum. Shows a lack of footballing knowledge unfortunately

I find it quite hurtful that you wouldn't give the time to try and educate a poor R in need and cure them of their ignorance.

Ollie was clearly great with us second time around. See my previous post about losing runs etc. I am sure had we kept him we would be at least as well off as we are now ...

[WeAreQPR12]

I doubt we will ever agree on Ollie. Loved his first spell with us, loathed his second. Yes forwards were poor but you could argue he had Smithies in goal and players in defence like Chief and Robinson. In fact at that point Sylla was fairly highly rated at this level. It was the way he set up the team with that awful system for months on end with wing backs when we didn't have any wing backs until someone said or did something and forced a change. Mainly that system looked carp so it was chuck Smith on and long ball bit hoping for the best. The way sometimes players just looked confused as what they were meant to be doing. His weird outbursts and comments at times. Says a lot that he left over a season ago, touted his availability and has got nowhere management wise. 11 months between away wins at one stage. Those six game losing runs. Almost relegating us in his first season from a position of safety. I really don't see how he could have been much worse.

The players Ollie brought through ... Manning who then faded quite quickly. Eze had a mini run after changes had been made to style of play mainly so whether that was down to him don't know. Odd appearances for likes of Shopido and Oteh. Smyth started a small number of games then faded. Think Chair may have played once in a Cup? I just don't see him as a champion of youth. That is history reinventing itself.

Agree dressing room better and partly down to deadwood gone on nice contracts but some of that is down to the player recruitment which from the outside looks like a combination of MW and Sir Les.

Regardless of views on previous managers things looking good for first time in Uncle's reign (ok Amit now!) so hope he is enjoying it as much as me!

Gave up at the bit where you rated nedum. Shows a lack of footballing knowledge unfortunately

[LoftusRoadLad]

He's just back from being sent off 2 games ago. Hardly getting better then. Have to agree to disagree on this one Croydon.

He maybe better as a defensive Midfielder ( keep him away from the penalty area )

[CroydonCaptainJack]

He's just back from being sent off 2 games ago. Hardly getting better then. Have to agree to disagree on this one Croydon.

If you're just looking at that fact rather than how he is playing in the 90 mins then yes. I'm not alone in thinking he has improved but yes it's all about opinions

[Dono77]

I think he is a good player as I said. Started badly but has got better each game.

He's just back from being sent off 2 games ago. Hardly getting better then. Have to agree to disagree on this one Croydon.

[SheepRanger]

I doubt we will ever agree on Ollie. Loved his first spell with us, loathed his second. Yes forwards were poor but you could argue he had Smithies in goal and players in defence like Chief and Robinson. In fact at that point Sylla was fairly highly rated at this level. It was the way he set up the team with that awful system for months on end with wing backs when we didn't have any wing backs until someone said or did something and forced a change. Mainly that system looked carp so it was chuck Smith on and long ball bit hoping for the best. The way sometimes players just looked confused as what they were meant to be doing. His weird outbursts and comments at times. Says a lot that he left over a season ago, touted his availability and has got nowhere management wise. 11 months between away wins at one stage. Those six game losing runs. Almost relegating us in his first season from a position of safety. I really don't see how he could have been much worse.

The players Ollie brought through ... Manning who then faded quite quickly. Eze had a mini run after changes had been made to style of play mainly so whether that was down to him don't know. Odd appearances for likes of Shopido and Oteh. Smyth started a small number of games then faded. Think Chair may have played once in a Cup? I just don't see him as a champion of youth. That is history reinventing itself.

Agree dressing room better and partly down to deadwood gone on nice contracts but some of that is down to the player recruitment which from the outside looks like a combination of MW and Sir Les.

Regardless of views on previous managers things looking good for first time in Uncle's reign (ok Amit now!) so hope he is enjoying it as much as me!

Yup. But those players were 19 at the time and went out on loan to gain some experience so the club generally, managers and coaches have managed that situation well.

I don't want to highjack this thread to start another Olly debate.

We are playing well under MW and I'm loving it. Hopefully, I'lI get to see us live this season shortly having only seen the Oxford friendly. Away to Leeds and home to Boro are pencilled in.

[FurtiveFox]

I'm not disagreeing with, I understand the view. But under Olly we had Washy and Smith up front. The former couldnt score with the ball on the deck so you play to what you have, ip to the big man. There was a bad smell around the place and players who didnt want to play and therefore had no desire when the chips were down. They were on expensive contracts and wouldnt move, do financially there wasnt much Olly could do.

MW is doing fantastically well, the players he and Les have brought in are dojng well, and young players are now maturing into first team regulars.

Let's praise MW, but I'd rather not rubbish Olly who had a pretty sh1tty hand to play with. He kept us up, blooded 19 yrs old youngsters and the club worked out the deadwood as best they could.

All have played their part in some way or another.

I doubt we will ever agree on Ollie. Loved his first spell with us, loathed his second. Yes forwards were poor but you could argue he had Smithies in goal and players in defence like Chief and Robinson. In fact at that point Sylla was fairly highly rated at this level. It was the way he set up the team with that awful system for months on end with wing backs when we didn't have any wing backs until someone said or did something and forced a change. Mainly that system looked carp so it was chuck Smith on and long ball bit hoping for the best. The way sometimes players just looked confused as what they were meant to be doing. His weird outbursts and comments at times. Says a lot that he left over a season ago, touted his availability and has got nowhere management wise. 11 months between away wins at one stage. Those six game losing runs. Almost relegating us in his first season from a position of safety. I really don't see how he could have been much worse.

The players Ollie brought through ... Manning who then faded quite quickly. Eze had a mini run after changes had been made to style of play mainly so whether that was down to him don't know. Odd appearances for likes of Shopido and Oteh. Smyth started a small number of games then faded. Think Chair may have played once in a Cup? I just don't see him as a champion of youth. That is history reinventing itself.

Agree dressing room better and partly down to deadwood gone on nice contracts but some of that is down to the player recruitment which from the outside looks like a combination of MW and Sir Les.

Regardless of views on previous managers things looking good for first time in Uncle's reign (ok Amit now!) so hope he is enjoying it as much as me!

[SheepRanger]

Is early doors but can compare. Style of play far more defined than under previous managers. Not saying it's perfect as evidenced by our lack of clean sheets but there seems a clear plan, some flexibility where needed and not afraid to change personnel around a bit.

Under SM as soon as things went sour was like a rabbit in headlights and team lost confidence quickly. Ollie no real plan. Team in the main set up poorly then whack Matt Smith on and launch balls at him. JFH no better. In fact nobody has done anything much manager wise since Warnock. All been a disappointment.

Do agree on deadwood leaving making a difference. Decks cleared for MW but have to say our summer recruitment was outstanding. Youngsters also doing well under him mainly. Nice to see Chair and Manning as regulars. Eze so far so good.

I'm not disagreeing with, I understand the view. But under Olly we had Washy and Smith up front. The former couldnt score with the ball on the deck so you play to what you have, ip to the big man. There was a bad smell around the place and players who didnt want to play and therefore had no desire when the chips were down. They were on expensive contracts and wouldnt move, do financially there wasnt much Olly could do.

MW is doing fantastically well, the players he and Les have brought in are dojng well, and young players are now maturing into first team regulars.

Let's praise MW, but I'd rather not rubbish Olly who had a pretty sh1tty hand to play with. He kept us up, blooded 19 yrs old youngsters and the club worked out the deadwood as best they could.

All have played their part in some way or another.

[Shepherds Mush]

Our bad form last year coincided with long term injuries to Angel, Cameron, Hemed and Luongo not available

It’s as simple as that in my view. We didn’t have the back up to cope without 4 key players

Hemed a key player !!!??? Can only think of about 3 games he played the full 90.