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  • Romford Hoop
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    Originally posted by Qprtanpa1 View Post
    The point here is that while none of us on this thread will EVER know who's most responsible for the years of mediocrity we've witnessed, this much is clear: either Les is being completely outdone by owners and others around him, or he's largely responsible for a raft of bad acquisitions, contracts, loans, et alia. In the States most subscribe to former President Harry Truman's line about responsibility: "the buck stops here." When it comes to QPR for the past 5+ seasons, that's clearly a hard question to answer.
    Why are u so obsessed with him, you have not a clue what happens behind the scenes and donít pay his wages, give it a rest. Out of interest do you ever go to any games .

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  • Qprtanpa1
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    The point here is that while none of us on this thread will EVER know who's most responsible for the years of mediocrity we've witnessed, this much is clear: either Les is being completely outdone by owners and others around him, or he's largely responsible for a raft of bad acquisitions, contracts, loans, et alia. In the States most subscribe to former President Harry Truman's line about responsibility: "the buck stops here." When it comes to QPR for the past 5+ seasons, that's clearly a hard question to answer.

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  • Qpstranger
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    Originally posted by stanistheman View Post

    and is that down to Les' coaching & management skills?
    I never said it was. He is just a part of the group in charge whilst that has happened.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by Timmy the Doc View Post
    Easy to save when money and players contracts are running out. But has he been successful in the transfer market? No, he's been #### there.
    this is exactly my point.

    others are trying to credit him with cutting it down as he is himself.

    Has he and his scouts scouted a gem or two that the club have sold on for a big profit, as Brentford & Bristol City for example, have consistently done:

    He has, I'm led to believe, done some good things as a DoF, but please I don't need him or fans telling me he has brought the wage bill down by his own hard work. I credit him for not dishing out any more stupid contracts, although not having Sky's Premier League money has helped massively.

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  • Timmy the Doc
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    Easy to save when money and players contracts are running out. But has he been successful in the transfer market? No, he's been #### there.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by dave58 View Post

    Been asking this question for ages, virtually since he came, was bought in to appease fans when Redknapp was in charge, A Great player for the club, DOF ???????Questionable actually think he may have held us back from getting a quality manager. most don't want a DOF above them
    agree he was bought in to appease the fans becuase Fernandes didn't want to sack Redknapp, so thought bringing in a QPR favourite as an advisor would smooth things out. Well it didn't really do that.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by CroydonCaptainJack View Post

    Seems he is not entitled to any credit whatever he does in some people's eyes.
    well, did he cut the wage bill by getting those players off the wage bill by selling them?

    I give him credit for his work with Ramsey in bringing in better development players, but cannot credit him much with reducing the wage bill? The players I named were just some of the ones the club had on big wages, but there were others who pretty much did the same thing i.e. let their contracts run down. A few of them negotiated pay offs, which pretty much so them paid almost in full to go.

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  • dave58
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    Originally posted by Qprtanpa1 View Post
    https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/how-...t-qpr-millions

    Emotional attachments aside, at what point do we ask ourselves the obvious question: Why does Les Ferdinand continue as our Director of Football?

    He has done little to earn praise, but tons to deserve criticism for his management of the football side of QPR for the past 5+ seasons. Put it this way, if we were to interview candidates to head up this side of the QPR management team, and based the decision on proven merit, would Les even make it past the first round? Yes, he was a QPR legend. Yes, he seems to be a nice guy with sound character. But the record shows he has been in the driver's seat for one of the worst, most shambolic runs in QPR history.

    If we are pushing reset buttons on the manager and the players, why is it that Les escapes a similar change?
    Been asking this question for ages, virtually since he came, was bought in to appease fans when Redknapp was in charge, A Great player for the club, DOF ???????Questionable actually think he may have held us back from getting a quality manager. most don't want a DOF above them

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  • hoopsmanjake
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    Everyone is talking ###### so I thought I'd join in.

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  • hoopsmanjake
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    I like to see his bloody hands cut off . Lol

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  • CroydonCaptainJack
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    Originally posted by stanistheman View Post

    Most of that wage cutting was done by players running down their contracts and not much to do with Les' great work. Did he sell and get a half decent fee for the likes of SWP, Cesar, Sandro, Hoilett etc?

    He has negotiated cheaper wage deals for many of the newer signings, but sadly the quality is also heading downward.
    Seems he is not entitled to any credit whatever he does in some people's eyes.

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by Qpstranger View Post
    Given the massive cuts to the playing staff and wage bill, it could be argued that staying in the championship the past couple of seasons is relative success. It's not exactly the type of success that we all craved a few seasons ago, but expectations have clearly shifted in the past few years...
    and is that down to Les' coaching & management skills?

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  • stanistheman
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    Originally posted by CroydonCaptainJack View Post
    Given what he inherited and how much the wage bill has gone down, that enough warrants his existence for a good few years yet.
    Les IN.
    Most of that wage cutting was done by players running down their contracts and not much to do with Les' great work. Did he sell and get a half decent fee for the likes of SWP, Cesar, Sandro, Hoilett etc?

    He has negotiated cheaper wage deals for many of the newer signings, but sadly the quality is also heading downward.

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  • QPRDave
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    Les in, we are all enjoying this window...retro Rangers

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  • SheepRanger
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    Trying to shift players on.big contracts, unsettled squad, reduced the wage bill whilst maintaining championship football. I suspect there are other at the club who need pointing out ahead of les

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