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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post

    Not seen him but but if he's a passing playmaker he should be able to play off scowens , imo the fault of the cousins scowens combo is they don't play off each other both trying to do the same thing no understanding of each others game , many passing players don't do a lot of tackling ie the great Glen Hoddle , perhaps the cut and thrust of the championship isn't his game
    Agree on this. Everyone wants that sort of mix in the middle....a sort of a Keane/Scholes or Vieira/Petit partnership.

    Also agree on Goss. Got to be a Billy Big B*llox issue about him.

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    Last edited by Brian Wilson; 08-03-2019, 08:19 AM.

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  • Stanley
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    Also, it was interesting to see SM showing his frustration with Cousins on Saturday after he placed another inaccurate pass, which lost us possession again. He ran into his technical area urging him to delay passing or hold on to it until there was an easier pass on.

    Now that we've lost a game I wouldn't be surprised to see him break up this Scowen / Cousins combo.

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  • dogsrrs
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    Originally posted by Tarbie View Post

    Fair point mate, very different player to Mas. But at least he can knock the ball about a bit. Something that neither Scowen or Cousins seem to have in their locker.
    Not seen him but but if he's a passing playmaker he should be able to play off scowens , imo the fault of the cousins scowens combo is they don't play off each other both trying to do the same thing no understanding of each others game , many passing players don't do a lot of tackling ie the great Glen Hoddle , perhaps the cut and thrust of the championship isn't his game

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  • Stanley
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    Have to agree that Smyth and Manning appear to have been overlooked by SM. I also rate them both at this level, so can only assume that the manager has good reasons for it.

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by Pinkie View Post

    Tbh from very little seen of him and hearing about him he doesnt come across as the same type of player like mas, dont think hes the type with the same engine as mas, comes across as the type to spread passes about simular to carrick who that had likened him to, also doesnt strike me as a defensive tackler type but could be wrong, but just maybe doesnt suit our style of play just like he didnt under ollie.

    But agree about his attitude cos he shot his bolt cos he'd had a couple of good games be it against poor opposition, but he thought he was the next big thing with his comments which tbh in the end has backfired on him.
    Fair point mate, very different player to Mas. But at least he can knock the ball about a bit. Something that neither Scowen or Cousins seem to have in their locker.

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  • Pinkie
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    Originally posted by Tarbie View Post

    Gotta be attitude hasn't it?

    I've got a few family ties to Glasgow Rangers. Feedback from his stint up there was very mixed to say the least. Apparently looked top drawer one week, then would not show up the next.

    Needs jogging on in my opinion. Came with much fanfare (and no doubt a hefty wage for a kid with no real experience), but has produced nothing and has been overlooked by 2 managers in a row.

    On paper, he should really be the guy to come in as cover for Mas. The fact MacLaren has gone with Scowen instead speaks volumes!
    Tbh from very little seen of him and hearing about him he doesnt come across as the same type of player like mas, dont think hes the type with the same engine as mas, comes across as the type to spread passes about simular to carrick who that had likened him to, also doesnt strike me as a defensive tackler type but could be wrong, but just maybe doesnt suit our style of play just like he didnt under ollie.

    But agree about his attitude cos he shot his bolt cos he'd had a couple of good games be it against poor opposition, but he thought he was the next big thing with his comments which tbh in the end has backfired on him.

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by Shepherds Mush View Post

    Bang on. Manning and Smyth are more than capable at this level from the appearances I've seen. Should at least be making the bench.

    The one I can't work out is Sean Goss. Seems to have had decent games at U23 everytime I've seen a report (scores or assists) but is seemingly a million miles off being in the squad. Can't see he's got a future here personally.
    Gotta be attitude hasn't it?

    I've got a few family ties to Glasgow Rangers. Feedback from his stint up there was very mixed to say the least. Apparently looked top drawer one week, then would not show up the next.

    Needs jogging on in my opinion. Came with much fanfare (and no doubt a hefty wage for a kid with no real experience), but has produced nothing and has been overlooked by 2 managers in a row.

    On paper, he should really be the guy to come in as cover for Mas. The fact MacLaren has gone with Scowen instead speaks volumes!

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  • Shepherds Mush
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    Originally posted by Pinkie View Post
    In your opinion, to me seen enough to know smyth & manning have got that little something different and in my opinion should be getting involved more, said before as not a fan of loans & would always prefer to bring on our own than a loanee, even though these loans have turned out ok, but we have youngsters that are better than given credit for in my opinion. Manning was excellent when he played away to villa last year and just needs game time same as smyth.
    Bang on. Manning and Smyth are more than capable at this level from the appearances I've seen. Should at least be making the bench.

    The one I can't work out is Sean Goss. Seems to have had decent games at U23 everytime I've seen a report (scores or assists) but is seemingly a million miles off being in the squad. Can't see he's got a future here personally.

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  • dogsrrs
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    Originally posted by Tarbie View Post

    I think it holds some of these guys back from getting a big move. Same deal with the African players disappearing to the African Cup of Nations. No team wants to lose a key player for 4 to 6 weeks mid season.
    Well it has be realistic that interested clubs must have put off him with his early exit to join the Oz squad and his prolonged absence while bench warming

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post

    Yep your'e right he's been a miss but these long jaunts are upsetting I don't see why he couldn't have finished the Christmas program and left on the 27th Dec ,
    imo we should get shot of him in June he was late back and out of form at the start of the season then 10 weeks later he's of again , yeah he's the best we've got for his position but in reality he's not ireplacable or that great to be given a couple of months out of our season as a debt ridden championship side , it's a luxury we can't afford
    I think it holds some of these guys back from getting a big move. Same deal with the African players disappearing to the African Cup of Nations. No team wants to lose a key player for 4 to 6 weeks mid season.

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  • dogsrrs
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    Originally posted by Tarbie View Post

    Need Mas back mate. We've really missed him the last few weeks, in my opinion!
    Yep your'e right he's been a miss but these long jaunts are upsetting I don't see why he couldn't have finished the Christmas program and left on the 27th Dec ,
    imo we should get shot of him in June he was late back and out of form at the start of the season then 10 weeks later he's of again , yeah he's the best we've got for his position but in reality he's not ireplacable or that great to be given a couple of months out of our season as a debt ridden championship side , it's a luxury we can't afford

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  • Tarbie
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    Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post

    Making unnecessary changes there Brian nothing like a settled side , that's what we had untill injuries let scowens back and gave cousins a chance as well as ausie Joe's jaunt to the middle East
    Need Mas back mate. We've really missed him the last few weeks, in my opinion!

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  • dogsrrs
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    Originally posted by Brian Wilson View Post

    Cousins has improved a bit this year (Contract coming to an end ) but needs to do a lot in the next few month for even a years extension IMO. Would like to see Manning alternate with Scowen and Cousins.
    Making unnecessary changes there Brian nothing like a settled side , that's what we had untill injuries let scowens back and gave cousins a chance as well as ausie Joe's jaunt to the middle East

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