Qpr fan arrested.

[rodman]

Only trouble is those of us that have evolved enough to not believe in sky fairies have to make inordinate allowances for those that do believe in a make believe deity that brokers no questioning or ridicule, therein lies the nub of the matter.

[QPRDave]

Quite the opposite i expect,bullying tactics from the left wing biased media and big business again will probably spur people on against what could be seen as persecution of an individual for his beliefs.
And on a side issue all those that advocate a cashless society, take a long hard look at how easily they can financially strangle you if they wish to.

Good points

[SM3 Ranger]

I'm White, would be offended by the burning of an effigy of the Virgin Mary and would sign petitions to get the perpetrators arrested and prosecuted.

Also, I even said that the decision to prosecute the burner of the poppy - despite the fact that it is a secular symbol - was correct and the fine too low.

Racism and acts of blatanty attacking a religion to offend en-masse should be crimes regardless of the perpetrators or 'victims' race or religion. Only an idiot thinks otherwise.

Only trouble is those of us that have evolved enough to not believe in sky fairies have to make inordinate allowances for those that do believe in a make believe deity that brokers no questioning or ridicule, therein lies the nub of the matter.

[SM3 Ranger]

This is gonna hurt donations - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-...KxsEotHoeLuBY0

Quite the opposite i expect,bullying tactics from the left wing biased media and big business again will probably spur people on against what could be seen as persecution of an individual for his beliefs.
And on a side issue all those that advocate a cashless society, take a long hard look at how easily they can financially strangle you if they wish to.

[Brian Wilson]

This is gonna hurt donations - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-...KxsEotHoeLuBY0

[cross it Dave]

Absolutely spot on.

The police forces of this country, the CPS, MP’s & any other do gooder who was complicit in covering these heinous crimes up should be jailed.

Why are people so scared of the truth? It sickens me.

Well said Jim, I could not agree more, especially with regards to MP’s as they voted on immigration laws that let tens of thousands of unnecessary Pakistani immigrants into Britian.
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[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

I agree. The Yorkshire child sexual exploitation scandal was predominantly perpetrated by Muslim men of South Pakistani descent. When the social worker pointed this fact out she lost her job because it was deemed a racist comment by the PC liberal left, when all she was doing was stating a fact. The liberal Maajid Nawaz made the very same point. Point being until as a society we can have truly open and honest dialogue we'll not even get to first base in tackling these issues.

Absolutely spot on.

The police forces of this country, the CPS, MP’s & any other do gooder who was complicit in covering these heinous crimes up should be jailed.

Why are people so scared of the truth? It sickens me.

[QPRDave]

That's ridiculous, you would want someone to be locked up because they chose to burn an inanimate object?
Can't say im a fan of blasphemy laws.

no have to agree

[QPRDave]

except she didn't say that

so I've just read

[QPRDave]

What OldR is saying and it's pretty much the general consensus nowadays is that if any white person offends a non-white then that is racist but the other way round it's absolutely fine.

Thanks in advance.

It does feel like that sometimes bakes, not from Old but from the country generally

[QPRDave]

I believe the original complaint was that Jamie Oliver named one of his microwave dinners 'jerk rice' without actually having the required ingredients included... pretty simple requirement for jerk cooking as far as I can see..... I'm pretty sure Dawn Butler wasn't suggesting that it is offensive for 'whites' to eat it.... I imagine the only offence caused would be to your tastebuds....

My mistake Johnny apols

[QPRDave]

Hmmm.....

Although I am not making a direct comparison - historical, of course, or theoretically - I will say that the relationship between followers of Islam and Mohammed is very similar to the relationship Catholics have with Mary to some extent: Not God but an integral part of their faith and revered. Would I be offended if someone burned an effigy of Mary. Absolutely and I understand why Muslims would be offended by the same happening to Mohammed. Both should be considered religious crimes in my opinion.

The difference between the above and the burning of an effigy of Pope Leo XI is that he is not revered by Catholics and most (about 99.99%) wouldn't be able to tell you that he was the Pontiff at the time of the Gunpowder Plot: I certainly had to look on Google. He is an irrelevance to the Catholic faith but plays an important, if not integral, role in the Plot. Therefore the burning of his effigy should't be considered as religious hatred in my opinion.

Hang on Old, i'm confused.
I thought i read you said you thought it was ok to burn an effigy Pope Leo, but burning one of the present Pope is offensive?
So I obviously wrongly assumed you were happy to burn effigies, of the dead and gone, but not the present.
So swap Pope Leo for Mary and you would be outraged?

[gaza09]

You might end up with Tommy on one of his regular visits ;-)

That was pretty funny to be fair.

[OldR]

I think I'd opt for prison instead of some re-education program, thanks.

You might end up with Tommy on one of his regular visits ;-)

[Johnnykc]

Decent thread this. Well impressed with OldR knowledge and arguments

Me too Wests.......

#MeToo

Oh no..... that's a different subject entirely .....