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  • #91
    Originally posted by brightonr View Post

    You did CCJ, but that was on 15th May.
    I was referring to the post I made in mid July once the subject had been brought up yet again.

    The e-mail explanation I mentioned earlier is this:


    Thanks for your message.

    Iíll try to be as brief as I can, but itís quite important to give people the full story.

    Despite what some may believe, neither Stanley or myself had any problem whatsoever with the fact that Pinkieís views on Ollie were different to ours. Differing opinions are necessary to have decent debate and thatís what this site has always had. I did once point out to him though that his posting style, (jumping straight on to virtually all posts that were anti Holloway) was akin to trolling. As many others have said, it wasnít his opinion that irritated people, more the way that he relentlessly argued it at almost every opportunity. Hence why he started to fall out with people. We could see this coming a mile off and were trying to prevent it. Because of this, he somehow got it into his head that we were anti him and out to cause him trouble.

    Trouble is, he is unwilling to listen to anybody elseís viewpoint and is prone to wrongly interpret what is said to him sometimes. In fact, when MYU once asked him to not be quite so obsessive and perhaps not get so involved, he completely mistook the point being made. He has referred in some of his rants about being told ďnot to discuss HollowayĒ. Blatantly untrue as that is what he was referring to.

    Anyway, thatís a bit of background. Now for the real issue, which was of course, as has been pointed out on various occasions, his telling of blatant lies. One example, not related to the main sticking point was how he stated that Rangers 77 had ďgone crying to adminĒ about him. Not once did any of us receive any such a complaint from him about anybody, let alone Pinkie. In fact, I have had several discussions over the years with 77 about other posters. And in every case, he was speaking out on behalf of the poster. Hence I defended 77 when Pinkie accused him of getting him put on pre-mod. Not because I wanted to side with anyone, but imagine how peopleís views of 77, or any poster for that matter, could be skewed if that sort of thing was left unchallenged.

    There were various other occasions whereby Pinkie accused Stan and myself of trying to ďbelittle himĒ or make him ďlook stupidĒ. None of which were true, we were simply correcting his mistaken opinions.

    But what appears to be the major sticking point, is Stanley supposedly editing a post of his, to make him look foolish. From memory, he had once posted something that Holloway had said about building the team around Eze at one point. He was attempting to make a point and wanted to use this story to back up his point. All fair enough. Unfortunately, it all went a bit wrong here. Donít know if youíve ever experienced it yourself, but I know I have. Sometimes, when you try to copy and paste a ďlinkĒ, when you do so, the device shortens it. In other words, rather than get the text of the entire link, you only get a shortened version of it. The result of this is that the link doesnít work. This is what happened with Pinkie. I should point out that Stanley does, or did at least, perform a lot of ďediting functionsĒ in order to tidy up the forum. These would typically involve moving threads into the correct section, or perhaps merging threads where several have been started on the same subject by different people, in an effort to keep them all in the relevant place. Many hours of his time, in an effort to make things easier for other users.

    Pinkie, then accused Stanley of editing this particular post of his, which of course he denied. I have seen various correspondence between the two of them and the one thing that stands out above all is that Pinkie simply wonít listen. Then, because he is not being agreed with, decides to take that as being picked on. As their latest exchange wasnít getting anywhere fast, I then decided to attempt to explain what had caused the issue that he was so angry about. As I have done above. Partly because I thought that it might help coming from someone else and partly to back Stanley up as I know full well he would not have done any such thing. I have been on the admin team for about 9 years, Stanley about 8 years. I think I know him well enough.

    Well. Pinkie decided that this was us ganging up on him. Stanley had lied. I had lied now too. We both had it in for him, simple as that. Naturally, both Stanley and myself denied any such wrongdoing and having seen him mention it publicly, asked him to withdraw such accusations as there were not at all true. He decided to repeat them.

    Pinkie complained to both Fraggy and MYU himself, which actually ended up making the matter worse. Quite why MYU felt the need to look into it at all rather than just accept Stanley was telling the truth, Iíll never know. However, he did and MYU noticed in the log that Stanley had performed some sort of ďeditĒ. Now, an edit can be one of several things including as stated earlier, moving or merging a post. I personally think that all Stanley had done was to put Pinkieís latest post containing that link, into the thread that already existed, but we cannot actually tell. MYU mentioned to Fraggy that the post had been ďeditedĒ, without saying that we canít tell how. Fraggy, as he has already admitted, made the mistake of relaying this piece of dodgy info to Pinkie, which only served to reinforce his view that Stanley had edited it for nefarious reasons.

    Stanley has repeatedly told Pinkie he did no such thing. That should have been an end to it right from the start. I have told him he was mistaken and why, but he refuses to believe me either, although that should definitely have been enough to stop any further moaning. Pinkie, on several further occasions, publicly through posts on the forum, via a post from PunteR (someone he knows through Soundcloud) and now also via a long opening post by a supposed friend, johndakin45, continues to make such claims.

    There was a vote within the team about whether he should be banned or not. Despite what he has claimed himself and without naming names, a significant majority wanted him banned. Not forever, but until such time as he acknowledged his mistake and publicly apologised to both Stanley and myself for making these totally untrue accusations. Then we could all move on.

    As yet, he hasnít done so. I have even pleaded with him to call me personally to discuss it, but he hasnít.

    So, that is exactly where things stand currently. All it would take is for him to apologise for continuous claims that we are liars.

    Just as a side issue as he has made other claims that arenít exactly accurate, both Stanley and myself said that if MYU did not back us, then we would happily stand down. No pressure. He didnít, so we did. Followed immediately by Bluehoop in support as he could not believe how we were not being backed up. This was over 5 weeks ago now and neither of us have heard a word from MYU as yet, despite sending him messages asking if heís OK as we were getting worried about him.

    I hope I have covered everything. If not, do me a favour and call next time though, as this has taken quite a while to write out.

    Cheers


    Yes Pinky does come out of this as being very angry , but you don't mention the way he was hounded and ridiculed over his ott post in reference the manager, I myself was accused of being Pinky as if I should feel guilty for posting
    havent you noticed another poster is being lined up for the treatment being accused rightly or wrongly of being Pinky so what if he is ? I agree he should have respected the mods neutrality but he did suffer unfair criticism on a regular basis from other posters as mods advise if you don't like what you read ignore or blank it

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Dunraven View Post

      Has to be someone from south of the river
      Rangers,Scooters ,Tunes and Trainers

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      • #93
        Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post

        Yes Pinky does come out of this as being very angry , but you don't mention the way he was hounded and ridiculed over his ott post in reference the manager, I myself was accused of being Pinky as if I should feel guilty for posting
        havent you noticed another poster is being lined up for the treatment being accused rightly or wrongly of being Pinky so what if he is ? I agree he should have respected the mods neutrality but he did suffer unfair criticism on a regular basis from other posters as mods advise if you don't like what you read ignore or blank it
        Yes, I have noticed Bobbydunc being accused of being Pinkie. But thatís because it is !

        Would have banned him myself if I hadnít stepped away from admin.

        As for Pinkie being hounded, thatís simply not true. He made some very valid points about Holloway as Iím sure everyone would agree. The problem was the way he went about it.

        Nobody on the admin team wanted him banned until he persisted with lies and accusations. It really is as simple as that.

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        • #94
          Real shame to read this last two pages and really sad to read of the fall out of it all. The board is all about opinions and I hope things sort themselves out in a favourable way to all parties and you guys can keep up the good work.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by brightonr View Post

            Yes, I have noticed Bobbydunc being accused of being Pinkie. But thatís because it is !

            Would have banned him myself if I hadnít stepped away from admin.

            As for Pinkie being hounded, thatís simply not true. He made some very valid points about Holloway as Iím sure everyone would agree. The problem was the way he went about it.

            Nobody on the admin team wanted him banned until he persisted with lies and accusations. It really is as simple as that.
            Not for one minute do think the admin hounded him but a lot of posters took joy in trying to ridicule as I said admin always say if you don't like a poster you don't have to read him but some did then claimed they had the right to attack him for being a troll , sorry Bright but there was largely anti Holloway on the boards last season but here if any poster didn't join in they were held in ridicule , I got it myself and I was take or leave it as far Holloway was concerned
            there can be no justification for hollowhead tcnu the idiot to name just three of the juvenile names they are the people who should banned

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            • #96
              Holloway was an a rse in all fairness

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              • #97
                Originally posted by brightonr View Post

                Yes, I have noticed Bobbydunc being accused of being Pinkie. But thatís because it is !

                Would have banned him myself if I hadnít stepped away from admin.

                As for Pinkie being hounded, thatís simply not true. He made some very valid points about Holloway as Iím sure everyone would agree. The problem was the way he went about it.

                Nobody on the admin team wanted him banned until he persisted with lies and accusations. It really is as simple as that.
                It was obvious tbf
                nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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                • #98
                  Just for the record people, I am trying my best to resolve this with Pinkie once and for all. Hopefully, heíll agree to me phoning him tonight. If he doesnít and still refuses to believe the truth, them Iím sorry, but I really donít know what more I can do.

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                  • #99
                    Just caught up in thread. Tarbie is good poster and the forum would be the worse for not having him. Tarbs get yourself back fella.

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                    • Originally posted by brightonr View Post
                      Just for the record people, I am trying my best to resolve this with Pinkie once and for all. Hopefully, heíll agree to me phoning him tonight. If he doesnít and still refuses to believe the truth, them Iím sorry, but I really donít know what more I can do.
                      I like pinkie and we got on believe it or not but if heís not willing to play by forum rules why make so much effort. Just say cheerio get the two admin back as there good as gold and tell pinkie when he grows up to contact you. Why let one poster drag the board down ????

                      pinks if your reading smarten yourself up, stop being a douch and get back involved in the debates your acting like a kid

                      and before WeAre the stalker pops up with is BS do one

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                      • Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post

                        Sorry shags you've got me confused isn't Martin a c/f and Kakay and perch defenders ? But imo getting shot of perch could only be a positive !
                        Thank god for that as russell martin is pony imo, sensible thing to do is flog Smith then as dont need 2 of the same unless we want to go route 1 all game, we dont have enough funds to have 2 battering rams, surely we can bum washington out to peterborough and take maddison from them scores goals and creates a shed load too.

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                        • Originally posted by West Acton View Post
                          I like pinkie and we got on believe it or not but if heís not willing to play by forum rules why make so much effort. Just say cheerio get the two admin back as there good as gold and tell pinkie when he grows up to contact you. Why let one poster drag the board down ????

                          pinks if your reading smarten yourself up, stop being a douch and get back involved in the debates your acting like a kid

                          and before WeAre the stalker pops up with is BS do one
                          Was that last sentence even worth it? You're an idiot at times. You stick to wanting to suck out flair and quality from our youngsters and me an al will keep putting you straight even though we normally don't agree he is spot on.
                          I played sunday league football today.

                          Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                          I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                          We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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                          • Oh and do one is such a chavy comment!
                            I played sunday league football today.

                            Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.

                            I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.

                            We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!

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                            • This is really quite fun entertainment.
                              Pass the popcorn someone....

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                              • Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post

                                Was that last sentence even worth it? You're an idiot at times. You stick to wanting to suck out flair and quality from our youngsters and me an al will keep putting you straight even though we normally don't agree he is spot on.
                                Yes it was because I know what your like

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