was it a red card and a pen?

[QPR1234]

the free kick we got during 2nd half where helguson got tugged back..

[Sirsupahoopsa]

Dont think so , deffinately wasnt a pen but the defender tripped himself up which lead to him knocking over helugson.

[Olly]

players accidentally do all sorts of things, so penalty yes

[JoshQPR]

i was in line with it , outside the box so penalty no , but red card yes last man goal scoring oppertunity albeit that it was helguson infront of goal , perhaps thats why it was a yellow , ref thought oh it was going to helguson not a goal scoring oppertunity

[themodfather]

denied a goal scoring oppurtunity
even if outside, it's red as was the elbow....
what would happen at old trafford or anfield??

[hhrangers]

it doesnt matter if it was a goalscoring opportunity, he would have missed ;D