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  • Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
    In case you hadn't noticed, the 11 we put out was the same as against Cardiff, with the exception of Luongo. Ollie put a strong squad out, one capable of beating MK Dons.
    And that is my biggest fear, that side should have beaten MK with ease regardless of a low crowd or not, the fact we didn’t regardless of it being a cup game, shows this sides inconsistencies. Millwall, Cardiff, MK, 2 very poor displays and 1 very good result, display was ok.

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    • Very true but the bottom line is the manager is here ! He inherited a slap dash squad of players that have just came in as numbers with no thought character in some but no thought to the Ballance of the squad ie how many wingers ? punters complain about not being played why ? Could it not be they arnt good enough or wrong sort , how many midfielders that arnt getting a game ? plus the young bucks trying to make headway , yes also very true he isn't getting consistency could that be he has an inconsistent squad of players 50% of not good enough , imo he's half way there and should remain for the rest of the season ! one thing I am certain of when he goes he will leave a better squad of players than he found

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      • Ollie has not set up an adequate squad according to its playing strength (his obsession with WBs being the obvious example).

        As a result, we've had inadequate performances. Simple as that.

        Football is not that complicated. You have to set up to suit your resources. I understand Naz not getting this (under JFH he insisted it should be the other way round) but Ollie not getting it is unforgivable.

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        • Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
          In case you hadn't noticed, the 11 we put out was the same as against Cardiff, with the exception of Luongo. Ollie put a strong squad out, one capable of beating MK Dons.
          Was well aware of that. However it is for the manager to set team up, motivate them and make changes if things not working.

          Sadly poor displays have not been unusual the last 14 months. A big weakness Ollie has is making positive changes during games and he is often shown up by opposition managers who outwit him and do make good changes.

          At the beginning of the season things worked in our first few home games when he would put on Smith and lump ball in to force result. Unfortunately teams got wise to that and it hasn't worked to anything like that degree since. Unfortunately that is his only plan b and if Smith starts there is no plan b at all.

          Not saying all his fault. Players should have done better but buck stops with manager, particularly one who can be measured over a period of time such as here.

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          • Originally posted by hal9thou View Post
            Ollie has not set up an adequate squad according to its playing strength (his obsession with WBs being the obvious example).

            As a result, we've had inadequate performances. Simple as that.

            Football is not that complicated. You have to set up to suit your resources. I understand Naz not getting this (under JFH he insisted it should be the other way round) but Ollie not getting it is unforgivable.
            Exactly this. And that is why I believe he is simply no longer good enough for this level of football.

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            • Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
              Was well aware of that. However it is for the manager to set team up, motivate them and make changes if things not working.

              Sadly poor displays have not been unusual the last 14 months. A big weakness Ollie has is making positive changes during games and he is often shown up by opposition managers who outwit him and do make good changes.

              At the beginning of the season things worked in our first few home games when he would put on Smith and lump ball in to force result. Unfortunately teams got wise to that and it hasn't worked to anything like that degree since. Unfortunately that is his only plan b and if Smith starts there is no plan b at all.

              Not saying all his fault. Players should have done better but buck stops with manager, particularly one who can be measured over a period of time such as here.
              Fair points, I can't argue with any of that.
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              • Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                Was well aware of that. However it is for the manager to set team up, motivate them and make changes if things not working.

                Sadly poor displays have not been unusual the last 14 months. A big weakness Ollie has is making positive changes during games and he is often shown up by opposition managers who outwit him and do make good changes.

                At the beginning of the season things worked in our first few home games when he would put on Smith and lump ball in to force result. Unfortunately teams got wise to that and it hasn't worked to anything like that degree since. Unfortunately that is his only plan b and if Smith starts there is no plan b at all.

                Not saying all his fault. Players should have done better but buck stops with manager, particularly one who can be measured over a period of time such as here.
                Foxy this is my arguement why only talk about the last 14 months why not talk bout the last 37 months doesn't that tell it's own story because so many of the players arnt of this level ? yes I know your talking about the managers tenure but imo the root of the problem lies deeper than Ollie not being able to get poor players to function , I don't like 3_5_## even in a good side but it would still be difficult with a back 4 because once the opposition see you can't score they get braver and throw more into their attack , when you have a threat up front it's also called defending from the front
                Last edited by dogsrrs; 12-01-2018, 03:12 PM.

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                • Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                  Was well aware of that. However it is for the manager to set team up, motivate them and make changes if things not working.

                  Sadly poor displays have not been unusual the last 14 months. A big weakness Ollie has is making positive changes during games and he is often shown up by opposition managers who outwit him and do make good changes.

                  At the beginning of the season things worked in our first few home games when he would put on Smith and lump ball in to force result. Unfortunately teams got wise to that and it hasn't worked to anything like that degree since. Unfortunately that is his only plan b and if Smith starts there is no plan b at all.

                  Not saying all his fault. Players should have done better but buck stops with manager, particularly one who can be measured over a period of time such as here.
                  Can't argue with this.

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                  • Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                    Was well aware of that. However it is for the manager to set team up, motivate them and make changes if things not working.

                    Sadly poor displays have not been unusual the last 14 months. A big weakness Ollie has is making positive changes during games and he is often shown up by opposition managers who outwit him and do make good changes.

                    At the beginning of the season things worked in our first few home games when he would put on Smith and lump ball in to force result. Unfortunately teams got wise to that and it hasn't worked to anything like that degree since. Unfortunately that is his only plan b and if Smith starts there is no plan b at all.

                    Not saying all his fault. Players should have done better but buck stops with manager, particularly one who can be measured over a period of time such as here.
                    Couldn't have put it any better mate!

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                    • Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post
                      Foxy this is my arguement why only talk about the last 14 months why not talk bout the last 37 months doesn't that tell it's own story because so many of the players arnt of this level ? yes I know your talking about the managers tenure but imo the root of the problem lies deeper than Ollie not being able to get poor players to function , I don't like 3_5_## even in a good side but it would still be difficult with a back 4 because once the opposition see you can't score they get braver and throw more into their attack , when you have a threat up front it's also called defending from the front
                      Get what you say and keep hearing about our lack of a 20 goal a season striker. Last season only 4 players reached that with a couple just below. That means most teams in same boat. That isn't to say we don't have issues up front, far from it, but that this can't be blamed in isolation for how poor we have been. We haven't made the most of those we do have, save arguably Smith. Overall good goalie, ok defence, good midfield so should be doing better. Just need to play to strengths. Not saying we will be great but would think reasonably comfortable in this division.

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                      • Originally posted by dogsrrs View Post
                        Kit I'm not looking to disagree you say players are letting him and us down but that's just not true they are trying it's not their fault that they just aren't good enough , yes I had doubts about his return it's never as good 2nd time around , nobody is ever going to get JET Caulker and revel playing added to that he had probably one class player when he arrived smithies , bearing in mind Luongo was doing next to nothing Robinson was crocked and labeled as a f/b since he's been here we now have class championship players in smithies Scowens Luongo Robinson Freeman plus a good defender in Baptiste its just unfortunate there isn't a forward of merit there plus young players knocking on the door , imho I think it would better to let him have this window without calling for his head and childishly using names like Dollie Wollie Hollow head , I doubt we'll go down , honestly do you not see progress on team and squad building
                        Totally agree, also makes a mockery of people keep harping on about the last 14 months, but we were shiite when he took over & the player improvements dogs mentioned show how bad we were before asin going only one way! there was always going to be a mess before improving plus hardly any monies being spent on players, theres absolutely no guarantee another manager would of brought in quality with hardly any funds compared!
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                        • Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                          Sorry but should have wiped floor with them and put out full squad. Was a fail for Ollie, yet another one.


                          as just been said was our full squad lol


                          wheres that stick....
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                          • Originally posted by hal9thou View Post
                            Ollie has not set up an adequate squad according to its playing strength (his obsession with WBs being the obvious example).

                            As a result, we've had inadequate performances. Simple as that.

                            Football is not that complicated. You have to set up to suit your resources. I understand Naz not getting this (under JFH he insisted it should be the other way round) but Ollie not getting it is unforgivable.
                            And how many times does this get posted every day! how do we not know with the wingers signed and not using could even be that someone maybe signed them instead of ollie, hence his reluctance to not play wingers maybe! we just dont know, they might not be showing enough in training or whatever, at the end of the day theres goto be a reason behind which non of you/us know about, but just put it down to ollie not knowing what hes doing again, which is pathetic without knowing the reasons!
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                            • Originally posted by FurtiveFox View Post
                              Was well aware of that. However it is for the manager to set team up, motivate them and make changes if things not working.

                              Sadly poor displays have not been unusual the last 14 months. A big weakness Ollie has is making positive changes during games and he is often shown up by opposition managers who outwit him and do make good changes.

                              At the beginning of the season things worked in our first few home games when he would put on Smith and lump ball in to force result. Unfortunately teams got wise to that and it hasn't worked to anything like that degree since. Unfortunately that is his only plan b and if Smith starts there is no plan b at all.

                              Not saying all his fault. Players should have done better but buck stops with manager, particularly one who can be measured over a period of time such as here.
                              FFs lol, teams got wise to lumping the ball to smith haha, obviously if the other team has a big lump upfront and everyone knows what smith does, it doesnt take a mathmatician to work it out furtive lol
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                              • Originally posted by Pinkie View Post
                                FFs lol, teams got wise to lumping the ball to smith haha, obviously if the other team has a big lump upfront and everyone knows what smith does, it doesnt take a mathmatician to work it out furtive lol
                                Was kind of my point ...

                                And on your other post you were excusing last season on your beau preparing for this season which has been at least as bad ...

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