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  • QPR's Loan System:

    QPR this season have loaned a total of 15 different players out. This is something which Les Ferdinand feels benefits the players and helps them grow as individuals, as he feels the under 23 league isn’t challenging enough. However rangers are trying to create a pathway from the academy into the first team and create local hero’s and do things the ‘right way’.
    Therefore I feel this loan system doesn’t really benefit the club or the players at all, if anything it delays the inevitable decision that most clubs will face is that the youth team players just aren’t good enough. We have seen it happen year after year that we keep loaning a academy player out in the hope he will return a superstar however knowing he isn’t quite good enough and eventually we make the decision that he simply isn’t going to make It and the famous phrase ‘we haven’t had a youth player since Richard Langley’ gets put on the broken record.
    The one shining light of what has been a pretty dull season for QPR has been the rise of Irish sensation Ryan Manning and this rise has seen him become a first team regular. However funnily enough Manning came straight from the academy into the first team without the need to be shipped out on loan. Now is this simply because rangers feel he is the next superstar or because we have already loaned out other midfielders Brandon Comley and Ben Gladwin.

    For example Michael Doughty is someone who has been at the club since 2007 and after making his first team appearance in 2011 has had 8 different loan moves. Now surely if rangers really think he is going to make the cut he would have made more than 10 appearances for the club in 6 years before being shipped out time and time again.
    Over the years ranges have had many academy players who have made loan moves to be told their not going to make it, for example: Michael Harriman eventually moved on to Wycombe after a series of loan spells away, a similar thing happened with players such as: Antonio German, Bruno Andrade and Frankie Sutherland. The only player who will hopefully buck the trend will be Darnell Furlong who has seen the loan move come and go and now sees himself in the first team picture.

    This just simply asks the question do the academy players need to make the dreaded loan move before they make their first team appearance or do the players which make the move simply not good enough and rangers deep down know they never will be.

    • Awin
      #14
      Awin commented
      Editing a comment
      Originally posted by QPRHoop
      I agree as I think loans in general are more beneficial to a player than staying at the club and never playing. Sometimes though there could be an argument for not going on loan as if Manning was on loan then quite possibly we would never have seen him play. Overall though I'm in favour.

      One minor thing though is Gladwin last season was on loan at Swindon and Bristol City and obviously now at Swindon again so he has been loaned out a few times now.
      Gladwin was originally brought in to muddy the Luongo sell on fee. I suppose it was hoped that he might progress but wasn't our priority. He has done well on all his loan spells and will probably be sold on to a league 1 club for a small profit.

    • davieqpr
      #15
      davieqpr commented
      Editing a comment
      Players that come through from youth to reserve level tend to play with and against the same players year after year due to the more regionalised set up. Each age group obviously age at the same rate.
      By going out on loan you take them out of their comfort zone.You see how they adapt to playing with and against different players,different ages,different tactics. Away from home how well do they adapt,
      are the sociable,are they team players.The standard is usually between what they are used to and 1st team level. The list is almost endless. Some come back better others can't hack it. But there is only one way to find out.

    • topperharley
      #16
      topperharley commented
      Editing a comment
      Originally posted by Simon Cheshire View Post
      QPR this season have loaned a total of 15 different players out. This is something which Les Ferdinand feels benefits the players and helps them grow as individuals, as he feels the under 23 league isn’t challenging enough. However rangers are trying to create a pathway from the academy into the first team and create local hero’s and do things the ‘right way’.
      Therefore I feel this loan system doesn’t really benefit the club or the players at all, if anything it delays the inevitable decision that most clubs will face is that the youth team players just aren’t good enough. We have seen it happen year after year that we keep loaning a academy player out in the hope he will return a superstar however knowing he isn’t quite good enough and eventually we make the decision that he simply isn’t going to make It and the famous phrase ‘we haven’t had a youth player since Richard Langley’ gets put on the broken record.
      The one shining light of what has been a pretty dull season for QPR has been the rise of Irish sensation Ryan Manning and this rise has seen him become a first team regular. However funnily enough Manning came straight from the academy into the first team without the need to be shipped out on loan. Now is this simply because rangers feel he is the next superstar or because we have already loaned out other midfielders Brandon Comley and Ben Gladwin.

      For example Michael Doughty is someone who has been at the club since 2007 and after making his first team appearance in 2011 has had 8 different loan moves. Now surely if rangers really think he is going to make the cut he would have made more than 10 appearances for the club in 6 years before being shipped out time and time again.
      Over the years ranges have had many academy players who have made loan moves to be told their not going to make it, for example: Michael Harriman eventually moved on to Wycombe after a series of loan spells away, a similar thing happened with players such as: Antonio German, Bruno Andrade and Frankie Sutherland. The only player who will hopefully buck the trend will be Darnell Furlong who has seen the loan move come and go and now sees himself in the first team picture.

      This just simply asks the question do the academy players need to make the dreaded loan move before they make their first team appearance or do the players which make the move simply not good enough and rangers deep down know they never will be.
      OP is spot on, as long as those making the decision to offload players permanently get it right 100% of the time. Even Fergie (Pogba) couldn't get that right.

      Players who continually get loaned out to get no better than our U23 team or Swindon Town, need not be on the books. Shame for guys like Doughty who just about get on the fringe as our side slumps, then we hit some kind of form and get players in, who are frankly, better.

      Manning however would have been gone but for a change in management, probably the same for Furlong had JFH stayed on.

      Though Furlong would have been top, top drawer in League 1.
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